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I travelled down to Stansted to meet up with my eldest grandson, who had travelled up from the South-east segment of London with his Dad and Mum so I could catch up with how much I had missed since last seeing him at Christmas. The journeys back and forth were routine, and of course short; my time with my son and my grandson was limited because of the need to return to the airport early: but it was a magic time for a thoroughly-chuffed Grandad.

The magic time was diluted by the ritual humiliation doled out in generous quantities by the Dept. Transport’s Airport Security Gestapo, all of whose employees have been taught to ignore the common English words such as ‘Please’, instead relying on a imperious beckoning of a bent hand to signify that the culprit should walk through the ceremonial  punishment arch (metal detector); after which you are subjected to a pat-down search which came pretty close, in my case anyway, to being a classic case of common assault. If the prospective traveller says anything at all to respond to this gross invasion of privacy and personal space, you are immediately accused of ‘interfering with a lawful search’ and in danger of not only missing your flight, but of actually being detained by this bunch of out-of-uniform Nazi stormtroopers.

A level of security is necessary, when it is known that the murderous fanatics would have murdered their own families as a ‘price worth paying’ to smuggle their explosives on board the target aircraft; but one does have to ask the simple question,‘How many 74-year-old white Geordie-born bearded Grandfathers have actually been discovered making plans to murder a plane-load of strangers’?

 

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44 thoughts on “‘containers must hold no more than 100ml’

  1. Mike

    When some similar Ron Paul/Rand Paulite moanings have been made about airport security here, I have brought up the case of Annie Murphy, where an unsuspecting female passenger brought a bomb in her suitcase without her knowledge. It had been planted by her Muslim boyfriend, peace by upon him.

    The Muslim terrorists would be very happy to slip a bomb in your own luggage if they knew that you were not going to be scrutinized.

    And that is why grandmothers, grandfathers, and cuddly little babies all go through security.

    Kapisch?

  2. I saw that.

    Alex Jones has said that Rand Paul is just like Ron Paul, and that he was pretending to be more sensible until he achieved national political power.

    Well, the mask has slipped early.

  3. Airport security is not perfect, but it is better than the alternative.

    At some airports, there are displays of the guns, knives, nunchuks, and other devices that have been confiscated.

    And how to you prove the number of bombs etc that people do -not- try to bring on board as they know that they will be caught?

    When I go through the airport in NY or London I thank the security guys.

  4. ‘Airport Security Gestapo’

    ‘Out-of-uniform Nazi stormtroopers’

    No grossly overstated hyperbole there then.

  5. A hugely disproportionate number of the bellyaching about airport security is from people who don’t fly often.

    Those of us who do appreciate the fact that security exists.

  6. It’s a bit off to liken them to Nazis. Legalised child abusers and sex attackers is more like it.

    But I’m just as outraged that Geordies are now allowed to fly into the Home Counties.

    Troll –

    What if a Pentagon report, in 2012, predicted the rise of an Islamic State as a result of US and other Western funding of radical islamic militias in Syria? Would such a predicton be of interest?

  7. At Stanstead airport a while back, the ‘security’ confiscated my low-fat banana yoghurt, my seeded bread prawn club sandwich, and my sugar free pear drink.

    I was left hungry and thirsty, but felt so much safer 😉

    The ‘I have sort of got a shiny new uniform complete with a plastic badge’ so, I am going to abuse it to the full bastards.

  8. Yes and the Islamics are very interested in liquids as weapons on planes.

    How about the bus and boat next time.

  9. Phantom, on May 28th, 2015 at 7:48 PM Said:
    Yes and the Islamics are very interested in liquids as weapons on planes.
    more advanced

    They are far more advanced than any other known military then if they make an explosive device to bring down an aircraft out of a prawn sandwich and a low-fat yoghurt 😉

    It’s little wonder no-one wants to go up against them.

    How about the bus and boat next time.

    In London, we had a boogeyman blow up a bus, and we never get checked boarding those?

  10. Phantom, on May 28th, 2015 at 7:48 PM Said:
    Yes and the Islamics are very interested in liquids as weapons on planes.

    I am surprised we are still ‘allowed’ to wear underpants and shoes 😉

    The TSA are just state sanctioned kiddie fidd

  11. Harri, on May 28th, 2015 at 7:56 PM Said:
    Phantom, on May 28th, 2015 at 7:48 PM Said:
    Yes and the Islamics are very interested in liquids as weapons on planes.
    I am surprised we are still ‘allowed’ to wear underpants and shoes

    The TSA are just state sanctioned kiddie fiddlers.

  12. The Islamics have a particular fascination with planes, magnificent machines which they can destroy but which they cannot build.

    I don’t understand them taking the sandwich.

  13. Simple solution. Seperate commercial flights should be permitted for those who whinge about security. It should be advertised clearly that anyone can travel on those flights with no pre-boarding checks no patdowns no confiscations at all and as long as all passengers and crew are genuine volunteers, what’s the problem ?

    Choice for all and everyone gets the airport service they are comfortable with 🙂

  14. Phantom, on May 28th, 2015 at 7:57 PM Said:
    The Islamics have a particular fascination with planes, magnificent machines which they can destroy but which they cannot build.

    They are not that brilliant at flying them either 😉


    I don’t understand them taking the sandwich.

    They actually swabbed them in front of me and an armed to the teeth bastard for ‘explosives’ by an incredible stroke of good luck, WH Smiths decided to make them minus any Semtex that day, they were given the all clear, but still deemed far too dangerous to take on the flight.

    The lunatics are running the asylum.

  15. Colm, on May 28th, 2015 at 8:07 PM Said:
    Simple solution. Seperate commercial flights should be permitted for those who whinge about security. It should be advertised clearly that anyone can travel on those flights with no pre-boarding checks no patdowns no confiscations at all and as long as all passengers and crew are genuine volunteers, what’s the problem ?

    Or

    They can confiscate all missiles, bombs, guns and weapons, but allow, fountain pens, toothpaste, yoghurt’s and club sandwiches.

    And they are not allowed to touch up any children or confiscate wheelchairs.

    Unfortunately, the lunatics are in charge, and we will be kept in a perpetual state of fear…. but it’s all for our own good 😉

    I think those ‘terrorists’ won the war a long, long time ago.

  16. Who is in ” fear”

    I think its you Ron Paul / Rand Paul / Alex Jones guys who are in fear

    I’m not afraid and I know few others that are.

  17. Phantom, on May 28th, 2015 at 8:18 PM Said:
    Who is in ” fear”
    I think its you Ron Paul / Rand Paul / Alex Jones guys who are in fear
    I’m not afraid and I know few others that are.

    Nor me.

    The only thing I fear, is our governments

    You can love your country by all means, but my God, you had better fear your government.

  18. Every London mainline station is crammed with thousands of people at rush hour. Yes, of course Abdul Kaboom will instead try to get on a plane.

    Phantom –

    Erm, El Al is a private company which organises its own security.

    Colm –

    No-one whines about airport security. People who think about economics, markets, incentives and the nature of government realise that the very last people we want organising security are goverment bureaucrats.

    They have no incentives, you see? In fact the odd terror attack wouldn’t do any harm to those with an interest in promoting security theatre.

    Airports and airlines, being dynamic agents in search of the best ways of doing things, and with enormous incentives to get it right, are clearly best placed to find the best ways to organise security.

  19. Pete, or is it Peter. I just can’t tell you two apart!

    I full agree. The most effective way to screen for airline terrorism is by profiling combined with random checks. This, however, would upset the Religion of Grievance.

    What upsets most people at security check-in is not the fact that it exists but the pedantic, illogical, stupidity of it all. If I were a terrorist, I’d bottle my explosive in a less than 100ml container for instance.

    Secondly, and most importantly, the attitude of those working for security needs to be changed. The TSA, in my humble experience, are a bunch of retards who love the fact that they have power. They can get away with what they like, as can the police in America! I have witnessed a young girl being, in my humble medical opinion, sexually molested by security staff. But Hey, that’s OK as it makes flights safer. If you have nothing to hide, etc. etc.

    There are two sides to this story like there are to most stories.

  20. El Al?

    I do not see bad behavior by TSA or by the buys in the UK.

    My problem with the Rand Pauls and professional moaners is that they mock the entire concept of security.

    And they like Mike here parrot think 74 year olds – or cute 6 year old girls or babies – should not be subject to security – and that they are completely unaware of what the Annie Murphy affair teaches us on the matter.

  21. This, however, would upset the Religion of Grievance

    Yes indeed, 23% of the world’s population are entirely homogeneous and all think and speak with one voice. They meet up in the village square to decide what their position is on stuff.

  22. Ron Paul’s position is a lunatic one.

    He seems to be saying that passengers should be allowed to bring guns on planes.

    And he does not want any mandatory minimum level of security to be set by the state.

    So in effect, the level of security would be that offered by the most careless cost cutting airline in America

    Especially as in most any airport I know of, the terminals are shared by many airlines. So everyone would be sharing space with the sloppiest airline out there.

    I restate – the man is a clown and he and his disciples mock the concept of security and do not understand it at all.

  23. And when Egyptair flies to the US, the Egyptians are to be allowed to set their own security procedures when here?

    Not on my watch, buster.

  24. I do agree with your point of view Phantom, however coming from someone like you who thinks going into Iraq was wrong, but pulling out was right…. You are so wrong on those positions one must question your seriousness on this one.

  25. I have been relentlessly correct on airport / airline security since day one, and on Iraq only after the facts told me that it was an error.

    You don’t make yourself stronger by refusing to admit error. I was wrong, the US was wrong and you still are completely wrong on Iraq.

  26. as for Airport security speaking purely as someone who worked in a large one for over 16yrs security is an illusion.

    It has gotten better with freight and on the passenger side, however as an employee I could bypass security 100 different ways to Tuesday. Any employee could.

  27. That should change.

    But they do catch a lot of dangerous weapons and they do check for hazardous substances, and I am happy about that.

  28. Really…. I was wrong on Iraq?

    Were they supporters of Terror?

    Did the have 17 UN Resolutions against them including an ultimatum?

    Did both Houses of Congress vote to go in?

    If I was wrong I had a lot of company, and unlike you I didn’t succumb to the Democrat spin that it was bad that started a week after the first bombs fell on Baghdad.

    Bush plan Iraq was pacified and on the road to becoming civilized, Democrat Obama Plan Iraq and half the rest of the Middle East burns and the streets are covered in blood.

    The results of the two plans speak for themselves.

  29. About 5 Weapons Confiscated by TSA Screeners Daily
    December 17, 2013

    Carry-on bags at checkpoints have been pulled from conveyor belts in U.S. airports nearly 1,750 times this year because they contained a gun, often loaded, according to the Transportation Security Agency.

    John Pistole, the TSA administrator, said that amounted to an average of about five weapons a day uncovered by screeners. Many of those guns are loaded.

    http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2013/12/about-5-weapons-confiscated-by-tsa-screeners-daily/

  30. no I agree they catch a lot. I do however thank god that the terrorists for the most part have moved on from this industry.

    The problem with seeing behind the curtain is you know the flaws.

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