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The war on Christians continues apace…

“A nurse could be sacked and even struck off ….for offering to say a prayer for an elderly patient.

Caroline Petrie, a community nurse and devout Christian, has already been suspended for an alleged breach of her code of conduct on equality and diversity. She now faces disciplinary action, even though the patient involved did not make a formal complaint.

The Reverend Prebendery John Andrews, spokesman for the diocese of Bath and Wells, which covers north Somerset, said: ‘The simple offer of a prayer is perfectly in keeping with the healing ministry of the church, and for Mrs Petrie to be disciplined purely for that would be extremely regrettable.’

As I have pointed out elsewhere, Christians are a soft target for the equality fascists.

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39 thoughts on “ANGELS MUST NOT PRAY…

  1. In the article the nurse says that she admits she had recieved a warning about this before. Now I do agree that it is hardly the most heinous of offences to ask to pray for someone, but nontheless if there is a rule that states that nurses must not introduce religion or prayer in dealings with patients then she should either officially challenge that ruling and hope to overturn it or just accept it rather than to deliberately ignore the rule.

  2. The suspension is completly OTT. There is nothing the Nursing hierarchy love more than a good witchhunt.

  3. The suspension is OTT I agree, especially when I am sure there are more disgraceful behaviours amongst some nurses which are tolerated but ultimately if there is a certain rule and it is deliberately flouted (and the Daily mail will have put on a very one sided spin to this story) then if the nurse knows she is defying the rules a suspension is aprice she may have to be willing to pay.

  4. If she was a Muslim nurse offering a Muslim prayer the Daily Mail (and its readers on this site, including my good friend Mr. Vance) would be calling for a nuclear option.

    I agree with Colm, it is hardly an issue, personally I don’t mind if someone offers to say a little prayer or shake a bowl of stones or whistle a happy tune so long as their NURSING services are not effected. However, I can understand a secular hospital not wishing to have competing or unwanted missionary efforts and thus setting up some rules.

  5. "If she was a Muslim nurse offering a Muslim prayer the Daily Mail (and its readers on this site, including my good friend Mr. Vance) would be calling for a nuclear option."

    I was waiting for someone to say this. I don’t think it’s true. The same arguements would apply.

    Also, there is nothing wrong with the Daily Mail or David warning of the dangers of Islam.

  6. Anonymous: David and the Daily Mail are of course free to point out whatever they wish as to Islam. But the same argument would not be made.

  7. When I was last in hospital , waiting to go to theatre , an Irish nurse said that she was going to the chapel for Mass and that she would pray for me . I am not of her faith , did I complain , like hell , I was touched that she had shown such kindness and thanked her when I returned . Just has I would had anyone of any faith offered to pray for me .

  8. Yes Doctor, but not everyone feels the same way. Some people of certain faiths or none might genuinely not like the presumption of prayer offerings by someone of a different faith however innocently well intentioned and it may be that because of some previous complaints or conflicts at this hospital that the rules were put in place .

    I do think that people should not be so sensitive but I would still guess there is more to this story than the carefully glossed image that the Daily Mail will have wanted to have put across .

  9. The atheist crusade continues. Stupid advertisements on buses I can handle, the destroying of a woman’s career for exhibiting humanity towards her patients is intolerable.

  10. It would ideed be very different if the religion in question was Islam. Britain is a Christian country and Islam is deeply alien and foreign whereas Christianity is an integral part of the culture, society and political system. No one is going to find Christianity in itself alien or threatening.

    I was horrified when I heard this story – which I suspect to be an accurate reflection of events due to the words "equality and diversity" which seems to be normal double speak for repression of Britishness.

  11. ‘No one is going to find Christianity in itself alien or threatening.’

    Many do; including me. I find Christianity alien and also very threatening. It is, probably, a more dangerous disease than aids.

    She is probably a bit of a nut. She had been warned several times, but persisted. If she can’t obey simple rules like this, what other rules could she have been flouting? Good riddence, i say.

  12. Over twenty years ago, I had eye surgery. RK, in the days before laser. The nurse held my hand while it was being done. Never forgot it.

    The act of kindness by Nurse Petrie brought that other act of kindness to mind.

  13. The news article states: "’Your NMC (Nursing Midwifery Council) code states that "you must demonstrate a personal and professional commitment to equality and diversity" and "you must not use your professional status to promote causes that are not related to health". Prayer, it should be argued, is related to health; indeed studies demonstrate that prayer and meditation improve health.

  14. Guba, finally figured out that the roman cult is bollocks? I’m glad the Irish are leaving Catholicism, it is one of the main reasons they have been so resilient for so long. May they be divided by their lack of faith and direction that the religion of ba’al provided them.

  15. This Nurse gave a religious text to a patient which was deemed wrong and she was reprimanded. However, to suspend her for the act of humankindness of offering to pray for someone, is disgraceful and shows why the UK is in such moral decline today. At one time the secret of England’s greatness was the Open Bible, but that isn’t the case today. The Koran gets more respect from officialdom than God’s Holy word.

  16. The Koran gets more respect from officialdom than God’s Holy word.
    Depending on who you ask, it IS god’s holy word.

  17. Storm in a teacup – if true.

    I wouldn’t object to anyone saying a wee prayer for me, except maybe if that person belonged to the Church of Satan.

  18. Aside from the obvious arrogance of foisting personal beliefs where they are not wanted (and may even be upsetting to those of different beliefs) – the woman offered the prayer was a Christian and she didn’t want one.

    And who can blame her, since the offer of a prayer signifies that you look like you are at death’s door and are in need of some kind of miracle.

    It would be bad enough if your barber or your personal trainer offered to say a prayer for you – for a nurse to do anywhere outside of a hospice is simply stupid. Apart from being in breach of the nursing code and basic respect for other’s beliefs, this is basic common sense.

  19. Good point Frank. This whole issue will certainly have more to it than the simplified Daily mail version.

  20. James:

    The protestant cult is even more ridiculous. In fact, the Catholic church is the most likely of all to be true. It has a history dating back to the time of Christ (if he existed). The Catholic Church has a more rational understanding of scripture and, indeed, reality than protestantism.

    Protestantism is quite ridiculous. It is based completely on ignorance of the creation of the bible.

  21. Guba,

    "The Catholic Church has a more rational understanding of scripture and, indeed, reality than protestantism."

    Eh? This is the Church that claims to have documented evidence of numerous violations of the laws of physics, and a theory of heaven etc that is clearly shameless invention that has no basis anywhere?

  22. Frank

    "And who can blame her, since the offer of a prayer signifies that you look like you are at death’s door and are in need of some kind of miracle.
    "

    I did sort of wonder about this but I don’t agree. Being a patient would be enough to make those inclined to, to want to make you the object of a prayer.

  23. Phantom

    You are being unnecessarily disrespectful and incorrect . Everyone knows the only true and genuine religion is Jedi 😉

  24. Frank;

    They all believe in crazy stuff. It is, however, more likely that the Catholic Church, which has existed since the time of jebus, is true as opposed to a movement borne out of political and social tension. The Bible, we know, was not codified, let alone written, for some considerable time after jebus supposedly died. To believe that this is the inalienable word of god is, simply, unchristian and does not mqke qny sense.

  25. This is a crappy french keyboard, i cannot find the apostrophe and the q is where the a should be, for some mystifing reason

  26. Colm.

    No, the southpark spelling. I have come to the religuos conclusion that that is, in fact, how it was spelled. It sounds more godly.

  27. Guba

    How does that explain not being able to put an s in Jesus, when you are using the letter s elsewhere in the comment ?

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