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FLAG DAY

By ATWadmin On February 3rd, 2009

I suppose it is too much to expect the British Government to be able to correctly fly the British flag?

“The government has been criticised for displaying the Union flag upside down at the signing of a trade agreement. A plastic flag was flown incorrectly for a ceremony involving Gordon Brown, Chinese premier Wen Jiabao and Trade Secretary Lord Mandelson. The Flag Institute said it was “concerned” about the mistake and Tory MP Andrew Rosindell called it “an unbelievable flaw in protocol”. There is a specific way of hanging it, with the thick white parts of the diagonal cross nearest the flagpole being placed above the thinner white parts. But, at the treaty-signing ceremony in Downing Street on Monday, a flag was displayed upside down.”

Had the government flown the Chinese flag upside down, do you think THAT might have caused it some embarrassment?

33 Responses to “FLAG DAY”

  1. Slight difference is, David, that the Chinese Flag isn’t almost symetrical. Most people passing by wouldn’t even notice if the Union Jack was flown upside down.

    I even remember a couple of years ago, the DUP had to have a huge number of Election Posters redone because it featured particular candidates in front of a Union Jack and the flag was the wrong way round and no one noticed for weeks.

  2. That is very funny. Flying the Union Flag upside down is an international distress signal. It must be said not a very good international distress signal. But you would expect some Downing Street flunkey to have spotted that one.

  3. They also aren’t the only ones. The BBC’s current picture of Biffo shows him sitting beside one of those wee plastic flags, and they actually got the colour of the Tricolour wrong. It is Green, White and Gold in it, instead of the correct Orange.

  4. David.

    I knew it. The ignorance among many Brits as to the correct way to fly our National flag, is a disgrace.
    There’s a photo of a group of striking power-workers with our flag upside down.
    It gets my goat.

    Traditionally, to fly your flag the wrong way up is a sign that your ship has surrendered!
    It is still the practice, when passing other ships on the high seas, to ‘Dip’ your stern flag out of respect. The times I’ve seen it hoisted upside down (on either ship) have been countless.
    The only flag that is immune to this is the flag of Libya.

    The fact that this govt has done this is no surprise what-so-ever. They’ve surrendered just about everything National.

  5. How fitting.

    Most people passing by wouldn’t even notice if the Union Jack was flown upside down.

    Well, patriots would, which rules out preening traitors such as Lord Rio.

  6. It’s not just some British who are ignorant about flag etiquette.

    You’ll have people or businesses here that leave the flag out 24/7, in the rain and snow, until the fabric is degraded, and they’ll think they’re being patriotic by showing the flag.

  7. Flying a nations flag upside down is a universal distress call…

    Maybe it was fate trying to tell Britain something!

  8. Hawaiian nationalists will often fly the Hawaiian state flag upside down as a symbol

  9. How fitting.

    Most people passing by wouldn’t even notice if the Union Jack was flown upside down.

    Well, patriots would, which rules out preening traitors such as Lord Rio.

    I suggest you visit NI during the marching season and you will see countless butchers aprons being flown upside down from our so called ubber loyal unionist populations houses.

  10. It’s not patriots, it’s pedants who would notice something so daft and trivial. Why not just have the white parts of equal widths so that there would be none of this nonsense as there would then be no upside down to the flag.

  11. Mandelson’s flag is a blue background with a ring of stars on it. Mandelson is oaid by the EU, an institution to which he is loyal. He has no loyalty to the UK and should be hung for the traitor that he is.

  12. Allan

    Technically he is no longer paid by the EU now that he is a govt.minister, But I agree with you his loyalty is to the EU.

  13. "you will see countless butchers aprons being flown upside down from our so called ubber loyal unionist populations houses." I prefer seeing the tricolour and GAA flags being burnt in bonfire during the peak of the marching season.

  14. "I prefer seeing the tricolour and GAA flags being burnt in bonfire during the peak of the marching season."

    Which is why you are a sectarian bigot.

  15. Yet the southerners that sport Celtic shirts with "Omagh 98" on the back and the referring to the Union flag as "the butcher’s apron" isn’t bigotted. It was only a few weeks ago that the eirigi and Sinn Fein mob burnt (with great difficulty I might add) the flag of a sovereign nation and an ally of Great Britain. I’m sure that wasn’t bigotted, just a cultural misunderstanding!

  16. Colm –

    Mandelson is being paid a a large EU pension. He’s contractually obliged to promote the EU cause or the pension will be stopped.

    It’s not simply that he’s ‘loyal’ to the EU. Our membership of the EU is illegal, explicitly denies our sovereignty and denies the sovereignty of the monarch, which is still verboten under the Treason Felony Act.

    Mandelson is personally implicated since he swore the Oath of Allegiance on becoming a Privy Councillor, which he then implicitly repudiated on swearing his oath to the EU.

    Plainly he is a traitor and ought to be hanged. I sincerely look forward to the day our nation is again governed by patriots and the ropemakers are kept busy.

  17. I don’t believe anyone would wear an Omagh 98 T shirt.

  18. Celtic supporters can do whatever they want with an emblem of rangers, one of Glasgow’s crapper teams.

    They could at least offer Celtic some proper competition or will Celtic have to go into the Premiership to get any real challange?

  19. Firstly, I have never seen anyone walking about with Omagh 98 on the back of a Celtic shirt. Said person would get the living shit knocked out of them if they graced the Falls wearing it. The closest thing that I have seen to that sort of thing was a Celtic shirt with Sands 81 on the back of it.

    The march, which did involve members of Sinn Féin and other organisations, did envolve the burning of an Israeli Flag. It is a bit of a leap to then determine that Sinn Féin burnt Israeli flags. It is also not the same as the sectarian attempt to antagonise and intimidate the Irish community in the North as shown by petty bigots all over this statelet every July.

  20. PETE

    I asked you a question over on the ‘Phil the Greek’ thread, which is sort of related to this. I’d be interested in your answer.

  21. Seamus

    I think James H made that up.

  22. In one of my only trips down to the south a few years ago, some bloke in County Kerry down Killarney way was sporting said Celtic top.

  23. And due to the fact that we only have your word for it James, and giving the sectarianism you have already shown tonight, I quite frankly don’t believe you.

  24. ‘Some bloke’

    Oh right that proves it then .

  25. Then why did you use Southeners and Celtic shirts in plural form in your original accusation James H?

    I was born and bred in the heart of Andersonstown and if some vile piece of filth had had the inhumanity to wear such a sick garnment he would have had his head kicked off his shoulders. Only a sick mind could come up with such a warped idea.

    "I think James H made that up"

    I agree Colm, I think he’s talking bollix.

    I prefer seeing the tricolour and GAA flags being burnt in bonfire during the peak of the marching season."

    Like that nice one in Larne that had Micky Bo written on it?, you know Micky Bo, the fifteen year old Catholic child that was beaten to death by loyalists just a few months before?

  26. The buthchers apron…who gives a shit which way it is, you’ll never drain the blood of the ‘inferior’ natives off it.

  27. Paul, the Tricolour with Michael McIlveen’s name on it was burned in Ahoghill, not in Larne. Same principle though.

  28. Apologies for minor North Antrim mistake.

  29. I’m not the only one that has witnessed shirts like the one I mentioned or "RIRA 29" down in the south.

    Was the years of torment and abuse suffered by Darren Graham at the hands of bigots and the naming of GAA fields after terrorists, sorry "freedom fighters" just part of "the preservation of gaelic games and pastimes"? I wonder if the IFA would ever get away with naming a football ground after a loyalist paramilitary? Yet a county Fermanagh GAA flag getting burnt riles them up.

  30. James, when the abuse of Darren Graham became known to the GAA, they immediately took action to remove that abuse. It took the IFA years to respond the sectarianism against Catholics.

    GAA Competitions, Trophies, Clubs and Stadia are named after four things. A Saint, a symbol, the town it is in or an important Irish figure. That includes people whom you may consider to be a Terrorist.

  31. Thisis what the cool young chuckies are wearing nowadays.

  32. Ach Jamesy lad, I know that you’ve been caught out with the Omagh ’98 & RIRA ’29 guff, [isn’t it strange that it was only seen by you or by people you know?] but could you not have tried to change the subject to something a wee bit more current than the “years” of torment and abuse suffered by Darren Graham?

    Disgusting as it was, as Seamas says, once the GAA found out it was nipped in the bud and the young lad went back to playing for Fermanagh.

    Ever heard of the Old Boyne Island Heroes LOL 633?, [or the UVF Lodge, as it’s known on the Shankill]

    Now there’s a REAL terrorist supporting outfit.

  33. >>I wonder if the IFA would ever get away with naming a football ground after a loyalist paramilitary? <<

    Well, if the Loyal orders can name bands after them, I don’t see why not!