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A necessary move to protect life and liberty. Antifa is not some run of the mill leftist outfit. They are violent revolutionaries. It regards the Republic as an enemy, fascist state and violence is its starting point.

Antifa must be crushed.

 

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51 thoughts on “TRUMP TAKES MY ADVICE

  1. So Trump has outlawed a group that opposes fascism. Does that mean the USA is now a fascist state? Somebody better wake Troll up and tell him! 😊

  2. Because Antifa labels something as fascist does not mean it is fascist. They really are more like the old anarchists. I’ve no problem with them being labeled terrorists even if it is mostly just a distraction put out by Trump to cloud his ineffective response to yet another crisis.

  3. My understanding is that there is no designations of terrorist organisations in the United States. They have a designation of foreign terrorist organisations. So what Trump is proposing would almost certainly require fresh legislation.

  4. Antifa believe in bludgeoning down those who disagree with them.

    They would have more in common with the SS then with those who brought Nazism down ( the Allies )

  5. Because Antifa labels something as fascist does not mean it is fascist

    Does it also follow that if Trump or anyone else labels something ‘antifa’ it does not mean it’s ‘antifa?’

  6. If Antifa is designated a terrorist organisation, that would mean the FBI would have to go after its funders.

    What fun that would be.

  7. The law enforcement agencies and journalists would be well aware of who antifa is

  8. “If Antifa is designated a terrorist organisation, that would mean the FBI would have to go after its funders.”

    Under what authority could they do this?

  9. If you send money to Al-Qaeda, you can be prosecuted

    If you send money to antifa or it’s related groups, you should similarly be prosecuted

    Why would anyone have a problem with this

  10. AG Barr has issued the following statement. The punch is at the end:

    “With the rioting that is occurring in many of our cities around the country, the voices of peaceful and legitimate protests have been hijacked by violent radical elements. Groups of outside radicals and agitators are exploiting the situation to pursue their own separate, violent, and extremist agenda.

    It is time to stop watching the violence and to confront and stop it. The continued violence and destruction of property endangers the lives and livelihoods of others, and interferes with the rights of peaceful protestors, as well as all other citizens.

    It also undercuts the urgent work that needs to be done – through constructive engagement between affected communities and law enforcement leaders – to address legitimate grievances. Preventing reconciliation and driving us apart is the goal of these radical groups, and we cannot let them succeed.

    It is the responsibility of state and local leaders to ensure that adequate law enforcement resources, including the National Guard where necessary, are deployed on the streets to reestablish law and order. We saw this finally happen in Minneapolis last night, and it worked.

    Federal law enforcement actions will be directed at apprehending and charging the violent radical agitators who have hijacked peaceful protest and are engaged in violations of federal law.

    To identify criminal organizers and instigators, and to coordinate federal resources with our state and local partners, federal law enforcement is using our existing network of 56 regional FBI Joint Terrorism Task Forces (JTTF).

    The violence instigated and carried out by Antifa and other similar groups in connection with the rioting is domestic terrorism and will be treated accordingly.”

  11. “If you send money to Al-Qaeda, you can be prosecuted”

    Because Al-Qaeda is a foreign terrorist organisation. Are you saying Antifa are foreign?

  12. Antifa by their own admission only exist to violently disrup the activities of their opponents or to cause violent disruption generally. What they and their ‘members’ do is already illegal. This is just a gimmick by Trump – and of course a nice useful diversion from the current issue of police brutality and accountability.

  13. Terrorists can be foreign or domestic

    Timothy McVeigh was a terrorist, as were the Lansing Michigan armed poofter protesters

  14. “Terrorists can be foreign or domestic”

    They can be. But designated terrorist organisations, as decided by US law, must be foreign. 8 U.S. Code § 1189

    1 – The Secretary is authorized to designate an organization as a foreign terrorist organization in accordance with this subsection if the Secretary finds that

    a) the organization is a foreign organization

    b) the organization engages in terrorist activity (as defined in section 1182(a)(3)(B) of this title or terrorism (as defined in section 2656f(d)(2) of title 22), or retains the capability and intent to engage in terrorist activity or terrorism); and

    c) the terrorist activity or terrorism of the organization threatens the security of United States nationals or the national security of the United States

    A let us reflect on the fact that the KKK has not be declared a terrorist organisation. The armed far-right militias have not been declared terrorist organisations.

  15. What it means of course is that any white kid dressed in black with a spray paint can can now be labelled a terrorist.

  16. What are the implications (if any) for those who oppose fascism, but aren’t members of AntiFa? And who will decide that?

  17. Another meaningless stunt. Just don’t mention 100+k dead on his incompetent watch.

  18. Don’t punch people, don’t bust windows, don’t throw Molotovs, you will probably be just fine.

    I tip my hat to Trump today. This assessment is long overdue, here and in other countries.

    This isn’t a game.

    Generally, you don’t hit people who aren’t a threat to hit you, or who aren’t stealing your stuff, or trying to burn down your house. Shouldn’t have to say that, but in this place, perhaps you do.

  19. Does anyone – Pete, mahons, Phantom – know what terrorist acts “Antifa” carried out?

  20. Noel –

    Their violence is political violence, the definition of terrorism. The intent is violent revolution. They’re not quiet about it.

  21. //Their violence is political violence, the definition of terrorism.//

    For Christ’s sake, that isn’t the definition of terrorism. Violence needs to be of a special kind to be terrorism, and “Antifa” activists, if you can even talk of them as a group, haven’t as far as I know, carried out any such violence.

    I’ve absolutely no time for them, but it’s laughable to call them terrorists.

  22. I’d say that what looked to be two young woman spraying graffitti on a Starbucks was terrorism and violent revolution alright.

  23. //I’d say that what looked to be two young woman spraying graffitti on a Starbucks was terrorism//

    Right. Terrorism is when someone you really detest does something violent and unlawful.

  24. Paul –

    That’s vandalism.

    Noel –

    What are you talking about, only “special” violence is terrorism? Violence done for political or religious ends is the definition of terrorism.

    Demonstrators and common rioters are not terrorists. Antifa is a terror grouping because its very reason for being is to commit violence for political ends.

  25. Antifa people appear to have thrown a Molotov in a police van last night. Hopefully that is seen as bad conduct by all.

    Not sure if she had her official Antifa Photo ID on her at the moment.

    They’ve physically attacked persons and property in a number of countries.

    Antifa groups petrol bomb Golden Dawn during rapper death anniversary

    Antifa groups petrol bomb Golden Dawn during rapper death anniversary

    The organization that doesn’t exist has enough support in the pacific Northwest that their symbols had be be banned at soccer matches there.
    https://www.foxnews.com/sports/antifas-iron-front-symbol-banned-by-major-league-soccers-portland-timbers-and-seattle-sounders

  26. That’s vandalism

    Yet we’re told they’re ‘antifa’ activists and terrorists?

    What in the name of Christ is an ‘Iron Front’ Phantom?

    Are the Greek ‘antifa’ the same as the American ‘antifa?’ an do the Irish and Greek ‘antifa’ have an ‘Iron Front’ like their colleagues in terror in the PNW?

    Why not just arrest their leaders and break the cahin of command? My guess is because there’s no serpent to hehead,

  27. Why not just arrest their leaders and break the cahin of command? My guess is because there’s no serpent to hehead,

    The TORCH Network is what you’re looking for.

    Don’t give us that new-found guff that there’s no Antifa, it doesn’t exist, there’s no network. For five years they were the good guys according to its media sycophants. Then Antifa attacked the CNN hq and it was regrets all round. Trump then declares it a domestic terror group and it’s another volte-face, the left claiming that oh there’s no Antifa really.

    BS after BS after BS.

  28. There may not be a formal chain of command in the normal sense.

    As I’ve said multiple times over the months and more, this is a very different type of organization than say the Metropolian Police.

    Saying arrest the leaders doesn’t necessarily mean anything.

  29. Saying arrest the leaders doesn’t necessarily mean anything.

    A classic no comment comment. There’ll be no leaders arrested because there’s no leaders to arrest because no such group exists. ‘Antfa’ is an abstract idea, a philosophy.

  30. The Democrat mayors of NYC ( where police have been attacked ) and of Philadelphia ( where there is widespread looting ) have both made repeated comment about highly organized ” anarchists ” from outside those cities who are making things worse. Tim Walz, governor of Minnesota has spoken of this as well.

    The accused Molotov cocktail chick was from the Catskill Mountains, maybe 135 miles from NYC. She would have the face of an angel, the soul of Charles Manson. Her alleged attempted atrocity was committed very close to Brooklyn’s large Prospect Park, a large oasis much like Central Park.

    In the case of Philadelphia, outside anarchists sure sounds like outside white anarchists. Philadelphia is one of the poorest if not the poorest big cities in the US. White anarchists would be part of the ruin that is happening today in Philadelphia.

    The vandalism and looting is significant in downtown and west Philadelphia. Years and years of economic development by private and public citizens are ruined. This happens at the very moment when all the office workers there have proved that they can work almost as well from home. Think that they will want to go back to that city any decade soon? Or go into town to hang out?

    I wish the good people in Philadelphia, Minneapolis and other cities well, but I don’t know if they can recover from this. The bad locals and the bad ( mostly white, out of town ) anarchists / Antifa have caused great ruin of property and reputation.

  31. A chapter of the group that our thick friend says does not exist.

    They are proudly claiming that they exists, but he says ” oh no you don’t =. You’re a ghost”!! 🙂

  32. A Twitter account? Well, that’s convinced me anyway.

    Thick? I’m neither thick nor, unlike you, dishonest.

  33. From the very much left of center Democratic mayor of New York City

    https://www.politico.com/states/new-york/albany/story/2020/05/31/de-blasio-now-says-some-anarchist-protesters-are-local-amid-continued-defense-of-nypd-1289520

    NEW YORK — Mayor Bill de Blasio on Sunday blamed an organized group of anarchists for inciting violence and vandalism amid protests over the killing of George Floyd, but conceded some were from the city and the neighborhoods where demonstrations were happening — a shift from his message Saturday night.

    “Some come from outside the city. Some are from inside the city,” he said. “Some are from the neighborhoods where the protests take place, some are not. But what we do know is there is an explicit agenda of violence and it does not conform with the history of this city in which we have always honored non-violent protests.”

    Only hours before, on Saturday night, the mayor insisted the threat of violence was coming from “out of town” demonstrators, many of whom are “not from communities of color” and have a “warped ideology” that leads them to “harming working people who are police officers“

  34. I wonder what the left of centre Mayor thought of this in ‘the city in which we have always honored non-violent protests’ :

    BTW Phantom, that’s taken from Guardian columnist Owen Jones. He describes himself as a ‘socialist, antifascist’ Is he in ‘antifa?’

  35. President Donald Trump tweeted on Sunday that the U.S. government would be “designating ANTIFA as a Terrorist Organization.”

    There were just two problems with that. First, he doesn’t appear to have the legal authority to do so. And second, it’s by no means clear the loosely defined group of radical activists is an organization at all.

    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/05/31/trump-antifa-terrorist-organization-legal-292785

    Antifa is neither “terrorist” nor an organization.

    To explain a little: it’s like calling bird-watching an organization. Yes, there are bird-watching organizations as there are Antifa organizations but neither bird-watching nor antifa is an organization.

  36. I think that I will listen to the Public officials and police chiefs on this one thank you very kindly.

  37. So what shade of ‘anarchists’ were the public officials and police chiefs talking about? Or was it the non existant ‘antifa’ organisation?

  38. Here’s one of the great lawyers involved in a Molotov incident in Fort Greene Brooklyn last night . The Ivy League educated lawyer was behind the wheel of the getaway car.

    Before long, he will be fired, disbarred, and in prison.

    Fort Greene, Which is close to the old Brooklyn Navy Yard,would be a few miles away from the other Molotov cocktail incident here

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    The mayor of Miami Was just on Fox. He said that of the 57 riot related arrests made last night, That’s only 15 of them were from the city of Miami.

  39. International terrorism is just that- I international. For ANTIFA this is a big problem. If the USA labels them terrorists then others will be sure to follow. It seems these erksome trouble maker’s days are numbered. And not before time.

  40. // If the USA labels them terrorists then others will be sure to follow. //

    People always label “terrorists” those they are afraid of and, yes, others are always sure to follow.

  41. Hunters & hunted?, very dramatic H. Have you been supping from the PVR cup?

  42. I noticed some comments earlier Noel. He seems uncharacteristically slack in getting your blog up.

  43. // He seems uncharacteristically slack in getting your blog up.//

    I think I was too nice to Seimi. 🙁

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