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It is now certain that Joe Biden will be President of the United States.

I’ve seen nonsense talk of revolution, riots, open insurrection…. None of that will happen. People will complain and scream, no one will raise arms. No one will riot, loot, or burn. It is not how things are done by civilized people.

There will however be no “healing” no “unity”, there will be angst, animosity, and absolutely no trust.

The ball is in the Democrats court, the last time they had this much power the seized control of one sixth of the economy with Healthcare. They will finish that now. The question is what other direction will they push?

Fossil Fuels will be targeted, but to what extent? Fracking and Oil wells on all Federal Land will end that can be banked on. It will give an immense economic boost to both the Russians and the Middle East while destroying the growth of both oil and lng. In Pennsylvania, the LNG/Oil industry over the past four years has revitalized every area of the State. From the Great Lakes to the Delaware bay, rising waters has lifted all ships, but the plug will be pulled, and all those ships will now sit in the mud and rot along with all the jobs they carried.

The economic damage is coming….. buy gold and bullet’s

The fun part will be watching the social damage. Barack Obama had the opportunity to be the greatest healing force in American History and squandered it. Instead by the end of his Presidency race relation perception was back in the 60s despite the reality of the world around us.

We have turned the Levers of Power over to the Social Warriors. They have a list of grievances and demands along with all the power to implement what they feel the remedy should be and they have no restraint.

There is no equality under the Law, they do not recognize it and so therefore it does not exist. We have no rights. All we have now is what they decide not to take from us. It’s going to be very interesting watching to see how far they go.

May you Live in Interesting Times

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57 thoughts on “So let the Games begin…..

  1. You had an election. This time the seated President was defeated by the opponent from the other party. That’s all. It happens every now and then. It’s routine. It isn’t a coup, a revolution or the end of the United States. You continue to have the same Democracy, same Rights and same country as you had the many other times this has happened. In 2 years time the US electorate will have the chance to boost or penalise the new President by reshaping the Legislature and in four years time they can choose to keep or reject him. Nothing unusual is happening in the USA, it’s the cycle of routine political life.

  2. There will be healing as now that the country can experience rest from the legal challenges and just a rest from Trumps daily bickerings that in itself brings a huge peace of mind .

    Ofc on Parler the 2016 ” fuck your feelings ” crowd are having an emotional breakdown all on their own , and talk of getting judge Judy to match on Washington.

    Apart from that peace is coming .

  3. We have turned the Levers of Power over to the Social Warriors

    You say that as if wanting a strong social safety net is a dirty thing.

  4. Let’s hope that things become duller. Dull is better. Biden is duller than Trump and I’m confident he’ll continue to be. Once elected, people need to forget the colour of their tie and get down to doing honest work.

    Some people won’t like that of course. They’d prefer to see confrontation and tension. They are addicted to entertainment and love it more than they love their country or its people.

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    I’ve started watching The Crown (now on the 2nd season and must say I’m surprised how good it is). It struck me that one solution to some of America’s ills would be if they had some sort of monarch or president removed from government, the way, say, the Irish president is. Preferably one with a crazy family – like the Trumps.
    Then bring on lashings of the ancien regime stuff, intrigues, back-stabbings and salacious scandals every day of the week. People who need that kind of thing will be well looked after.

    Meanwhile the government can get on with running the country.

  5. You say that as if wanting a strong social safety net is a dirty thing.

    SJW have nothing to do with a safety net.

  6. You cheered on Michigan Republicans stripping a Democrat of her committee positions because she made Rudy Giuliani look like a fool. So if this was reversed it would be the sort of thing you would support.

  7. The nonsense began when those Republicans supported an attempt to get the Supreme Court to participate in a political coup.

  8. Well Patrick, The Chairman of the Texas Republican party is calling for the break up of the US.

    “Perhaps law-abiding states should bond together and form a Union of states that will abide by the constitution,”

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-55283024

    ‘God bless America’ seems to be changing to ‘God bless Red State America.’

    Such a butt hurt tantrum.

  9. By the way, seeing as the Republicans have brought it up. What is the legal state of play if the majority in a state wanted to become independent. Is there provision for such these days?

  10. It seems that it is no longer the Supreme Court that decides what is Constitutional. It is the Texan Republican Party and its chairman who has that authority.

  11. SJW have nothing to do with a safety net

    You didn’t say SJW. Any country that cares about its citizens should have a good, strong social safety net.

    Well Patrick, The Chairman of the Texas Republican party is calling for the break up of the US

    Isn’t US secession treason and a capital offence?

  12. “By the way, seeing as the Republicans have brought it up. What is the legal state of play if the majority in a state wanted to become independent. Is there provision for such these days?”

    Secession is illegal in the United States.

    The Supreme Court found that the original Articles of Confederation (the original US constiution) created (in its text) a perpetual Union. Now while the US Constitution doesn’t mention the words ‘perpetual union’ it does aim to “form a more perfect Union”. So the finding of the Supreme Court was that the understanding of union mentioned in the Constitution was in the context of the Articles of Confederation and thus de facto the line reads to ‘form a more perfect perpetual Union’.

  13. Funny how the blue states generate all the taxes and the red states absorb all the taxes but its the red states that want to secede

  14. Thanks.

    So, they’d have to change the constitution by referendum or get the Republican majority SCOTUS to change the ruling?

  15. SMcG

    My understanding of it is as per SCOTUS in Texas v. White

    […] a state cannot unilaterally secede from the United States. Secession would require a US constitutional amendment approved by 2/3 majority in the House of Representatives and Senate, then ratified by 38 state legislatures.

  16. If there is a push for anything radicle it will be for an article 5 convention, not secession.

  17. You guys have been living in a complete fantasy land for the past month, and you’re not done yet

    It’s past time to respect the vote of the American people

    The rejected President is still chewing the carpet, attacking everyone in the world, wanting prosecution of his opponents

    The rest of his life will be a painful time for him. An insane asylum is a real possibility.

    https://nypost.com/2020/12/12/trump-trashes-barr-says-he-will-do-nothing-about-hunter-biden/

  18. Phantom for 4 years the dems sabotaged the last administration and tried to undue the election. You have no ground to stand on.

    The system is broke, it was broke before Trump and we already had a third of the states on board with an article 5 convention. A Convention of States is a peaceful solution to redress Constitutional issues.

  19. “Phantom for 4 years the dems sabotaged the last administration and tried to undue the election. You have no ground to stand on.”

    No they didn’t. They held him to account and investigated allegations of wrong doing by him and his associates. That is what is supposed to happen.

    “A Convention of States is a peaceful solution to redress Constitutional issues.”

    What would it fix? Specifically what constitutional issues need redress?

  20. bullshit to your no they didn’t

    Constitutional redress of the voting system and Congressional and Judicial Term Limits.

    Those two issues would be enough and would have momentum to be adopted by two thirds of the States.

  21. “Constitutional redress of the voting system and Congressional and Judicial Term Limits.”

    What specifically about the voting system? And how are the issues you have a problem with solved by either congressional or judicial term limits? Your boy lost 9-0 in court so term limits would have no impact whatsoever.

    “bullshit to your no they didn’t”

    Compelling argument as ever.

  22. An insane asylum is a real possibility.

    I don’t think that’s a bombastic or exaggerated comment. He’s always been an extreme narcissist and this rejection really could push him over the edge.

    Phantom for 4 years the dems sabotaged the last administration and tried to undue the election.

    That claim truly is balls.

  23. What specifically about the voting system? And how are the issues you have a problem with solved by either congressional or judicial term limits? Your boy lost 9-0 in court so term limits would have no impact whatsoever.

    Voter ID and a national standard paper ballot system.

    Term limits are a safety valve on corruption. Senators 2 terms 12yrs, Representatives 6 Terms 12yrs, Judges 20yrs and no one can serve more than 12yrs in combination. You can’t do 12 in the House and then 12 in the Senate.

  24. you people can call balls all you want. That’s what over 70 million people believe, and that’s all that matters. The perception on the ground.

  25. Term limits can mean more corruption, with candidates chosen and financed by rich crooks like Adelson

    There is no reason in the world To believe that term limits would mean less corruption

    Donald Trump has been a completely corrupt president and he is a one termer, term limited by the voter

  26. “Voter ID and a national standard paper ballot system.”

    What not try to be bipartisan and address other issues with the voting system? You only seem to want to address Republican or conservative talking points on it. If you want to fix it you need to fix what both sides want to fix, not just what your side wants to fix. That isn’t fixing it, it is trying to gain competitive advantage.

    “Term limits are a safety valve on corruption. Senators 2 terms 12yrs, Representatives 6 Terms 12yrs, Judges 20yrs and no one can serve more than 12yrs in combination. You can’t do 12 in the House and then 12 in the Senate.”

    They aren’t. They would be an accelerant on corruption, because corrupt Senators, corrupt Congressmen etc… would have less time to accumulate wealth and so will try to accumulate a life time of it in 12 years. Thus more corruption. You would also lose hundreds, if not thousands, of years of combined experience, getting populist amateurs as legislators instead of experienced politicians.

    The best way to tackle corruption is to tackle the actual corruption, not term limits. So spending limits on elections, campaign finance laws etc…

  27. Perception isn’t reality.

    All that matters is that Trump was rejected in a fair election, that’s reality.

  28. “you people can call balls all you want. That’s what over 70 million people believe, and that’s all that matters. The perception on the ground.”

    Firstly I don’t think that is what 70 million people think. Secondly, even if it is what 70 million people think that is irrelvant. Facts are facts, they aren’t subject to a popularity contest. If 70 million people think the earth is flat then that doesn’t lend credeance to the idea that the earth is flat. It just means the people who believe it are morons.

  29. There are no bipartisan issues on voting and voter id with paper ballots is a must.

    Term limits curtails influence. Influence is what they sell. That’s the corruption.

  30. “There are no bipartisan issues on voting and voter id with paper ballots is a must.”

    There aren’t bipartisan issues. But in order for it to work you need to make it bipartisan. And there in lies the issue. You don’t want to fix it. You want to game it. You want a system that gives a conservative advantage, not that fixes the issues for both sides. And so your Article 5 is as much of a partisan nonsense as your support of the Texas coup.

    “Term limits curtails influence. Influence is what they sell. That’s the corruption.”

    It doesn’t curtail influence. A congressman with 50 years service has as much of a vote as one with 1 year service. Yes committee assignments are based on seniority – that will still be the case. Thus the actual influence will be the same – term limits or otherwise.

    Term limits are an affront to democracy. It is saying to the public that they are too stupid to recognise corruption. If a congressman is corrupt then don’t vote for him. It isn’t complicated.

  31. You voted for the most corrupt president in history, have never criticized him on anything, and you now want to solve problems of corruption? Oh my.

  32. As you know, I like to keep an open mind about these things and try to form an opinion based on evidence. But even looking at the evidence from both sides, I can find no evidence of widespread vote fraud in the US election.

  33. I think there is a case for a Constitutional Convention or whatever the correct process might be to specifically deal with how General Elections are run in the US. Whatever rules are in place for registering, organising and counting the votes complete with standards of checking validities it should be done on a single national basis by a non political organising authority with no interventionist or approving authority required by any existing elected politicians.

  34. Hugely unlikely to happen for multiple reasons

    Including that nuts on the left and right would want to drag multiple controversial issues into a convention

  35. A poll on Fox News apparently indicates that a majority of Republican voters actually believe that Trump won the election, which only demonstrates that they might as well believe the Earth is flat and the moon is made of cheese as a total lack of evidence means nothing to them.

  36. But even looking at the evidence from both sides, I can find no evidence of widespread vote fraud in the US election.

    Well, for some Trump (with his oh so cute grab ’em by the pussy shenanigans) was the second coming, so how could he lose if not by fraud. QED.

  37. It doesn’t curtail influence. A congressman with 50 years service has as much of a vote as one with 1 year service. Yes committee assignments are based on seniority – that will still be the case. Thus the actual influence will be the same – term limits or otherwise.

    The Seniority issue is more perverse and more pervasive than you think. Everything is controlled by it in both the House and the Senate. Right now the majority of the congress has less than ten years, but a third of them have over 20 and they control everything.

    As you get rid of those 30% you would see less corruption because the opportunity will be less. The less time anyone has in Washington the less the opportunity for corruption and influence peddling.

    The Rules will be forced to be changed because the people that are preventing those changes will be gone. You can not predict who is next in line in power, in committee seates etc if the personal changes and no one is there past 12yrs.

  38. “As you get rid of those 30% you would see less corruption because the opportunity will be less. The less time anyone has in Washington the less the opportunity for corruption and influence peddling.”

    Except it won’t. The corruption amongst the 30% will simply shift to other people in Congress. The less time any corrupt politician has in Washington the most corruption there will be as they will only have a limited amount of time to fill their boots.

  39. there won’t be time for it to shift and the people being there less will be less likely to be infected by the beltway virus.

    Very few people start out corrupt, but after years in DC they are inevitably infected with it. Term Limits forces out everyone after 12yrs so one person no matter how corrupt can only do so much damage.

    Biden started out in debt when he went into Congress, he is now worth 100s of Millions and he has served for 47yrs. You can go down the line and see the evidence of the accumulation of family wealth the longer a person is in office.

  40. “there won’t be time for it to shift and the people being there less will be less likely to be infected by the beltway virus.”

    It isn’t anything to do with a culture in Washington. Human greed is human greed. And there is always going to be people who are vulnerable to these things. And if those people have 12 years instead of 50 years to fill their boots then they are going to fill their boots in 12 (so 50 years of corruption in 12 years). The result will be an increase in corruption rather than a decrease.

    “Biden started out in debt when he went into Congress, he is now worth 100s of Millions and he has served for 47yrs. You can go down the line and see the evidence of the accumulation of family wealth the longer a person is in office.”

    Well he isn’t worth $100s of millions. No wonder you think there is so much corruption because in coversations on this issue you always grossly overestimate the net worth of politicians.

    Estimates of Biden’s net worth are around $9 million. And over the course of his public career he has earned over $5.5 million in salary. But most of his wealth came after he left office, not during office – mostly a combination of a book deal (worth about $8 million) and speaking engagements.

  41. The rest of his life will be a painful time for him. An insane asylum is a real possibility.

    https://nypost.com/2020/12/12/trump-trashes-barr-says-he-will-do-nothing-about-hunter-biden/

    As has been shown, Barr covered for Hunter Biden

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/barr-labored-to-conceal-hunter-biden-inquiries-from-public-during-election-report

    Attorney General William Barr reportedly worked to keep investigations involving Hunter Biden’s business affairs out of the public’s view during the 2020 election.

    A source told the Wall Street Journal that Barr knew since the spring about federal investigations centered in Delaware and Manhattan looking into Biden’s business and financial dealings. This was around the time his father, former Vice President Joe Biden, became the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee.

    The news comes shortly after reports said Barr plans to stay at the Justice Department until President Trump’s term ends in January, tamping down speculation that he wants to step down early.

    https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/hunter-biden-long-gop-political-target-reveals-subject/story?id=74634682

    The probe predates by more than a year the attacks leveled by Trump and his supporters during the campaign, according to a source familiar with the matter.

    A separate source with knowledge of the investigation said the tax probe began in 2018, and that the U.S. Attorney’s Office in Delaware waited to notify Hunter Biden’s legal team due to sensitivities around the 2020 presidential election.

  42. Phantom – I’ve just shown you once again to be completely factual wrong, so wrong as so often that you really should be assessed for that lunatic asylum which you mentioned

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