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By Pete Moore On February 6th, 2021

It’s a bit rumbly and maybe muffled, but what a privilege to hear what every human in the past could never imagine. It sounds highly amplified to me. Maybe the thin atmosphere doesn’t woosh around like here on Earth.


  1. Our Solar System formed about 4.6 billion years ago and for millions of years after that Earth and Mars were very alike and life may well have got started on both planets. But then Mars lost its atmosphere and became a freezing desert. There is still a possibility that microbial life exists beneath the surface and the next space probe there could prove that hypothesis. Or not.

  2. Poor show from England Pete. Imagine the Scots winning at Twickenham for the first time since 1983! 🙂

  3. where did you get those numbers….. the system is much older

    I don’t know if I did a post on it, I thought I did… but Biden is in office 2 weeks and they are already saying that the moon mission scheduled for 2024 will be delayed for budegetary reason…..

  4. Peter –

    A poor show but not wholly surprising. Five Saracens (Jamie George, Maro, Billy V, Farrell and Daly) haven’t played in five months. That questions Iddie Jones’ selection policy. So does not selecting many of the Premierships standout performers. Iddie himself has been in quarantine. The attack coach can’t get into the country because of Covid restrictions. Not that that would have made much difference when the team is intent on blindly following a kick-at-all-costs policy, even when it’s plainly not working.

    But fair play to the Jocks, who have really got their act together in the last two years.

  5. where did you get those numbers….. the system is much older

    The universe is 14 billion years old and our solar system is under five billion years old:

    “The formation and evolution of the Solar System began about 4.57 billion years ago with the gravitational collapse of a small part of a giant molecular cloud.[1] Most of the collapsing mass collected in the center, forming the Sun, while the rest flattened into a protoplanetary disk out of which the planets, moons, asteroids, and other small Solar System bodies formed. ”


  6. wikipedia is not a source…..

    The estimate of the Planet ids what you state Peter, but there is debate that it is actually much older.

  7. “The age of the Solar System can be defined as the time of formation of the first solid grains in the nebular disc surrounding the proto-Sun. This age is estimated by dating calcium/aluminium-rich inclusions in meteorites. These inclusions are considered as the earliest formed solids in the solar nebula. Their formation marks the beginning for several long- and short-lived radiogenic clocks that are used to precisely define the timescales of Solar System events, such as the formation and evolution of planetary bodies. Here we present the 207Pb/206Pb isotope systematics in a calcium/aluminium-rich inclusion from the Northwest Africa 2364 CV3-group chondritic meteorite, which indicate that the inclusion formed 4,568.2 million years ago. This age is between 0.3 and 1.9 million years older than previous estimates and is the oldest age obtained for any Solar System object so far.”


  8. Patrick

    wikipedia is not a source…..

    Says who. You?

    where did you get those numbers….. the system is much older

    Wrong again Patrick.


    For a man who claims to love science, your scientific knowledge is appalling

  9. Pete

    Maybe the thin atmosphere doesn’t woosh around like here on Earth.

    That’s very true. One of the few inaccuracies in the book ‘The Martian’, is the severity of the dust storm which causes the crew to evacuate the planet.
    I still highly recommend the book or the film though, they’re very good.

  10. Peter

    Our calculation of how old things are is based on our limited knowledge of what to even measure. The more we learn the more we realize how little we know and time we know less about than anything we can measure the deterioration rate of certain molecules but that deterioration is not uniform across the elements so we take the ones we have been most accurate with and date them, but what that tells us is the probable date of that particular element in that object not necessarily the date of the actual object.

    Using another example the expanding collapsing universe theory. The big bag blew everything out it reaches it’s maximum expansion and then collapses again till this compression causes another big bang and repeat…. That was the standard for decades except as our sensors have developed and we can measure more precise and further and further each year we have found some galaxies that aren’t moving in the direction or speed they should be. Some faster some slower some still expanding out while others are starting to collapse back in.

    The current theory is dark matter’s distribution is not uniform and we really don’t have an understanding of what dark matter really is, but we do know it’s there and it is affecting things. And yet 10-15 years ago we didn’t even know dark matter existed and it could actually be the most abundant intergalactic element.

    We know next to nothing.

    The earth and man are much older than we can prove at this point. The majority of the planets historical record is under water and we don’t have the knowledge to reach it to analyze it. Remember for millions and millions of years the Earths axis was properly aligned and what is land now is where the ocean’s were and where the oceans are now over a third of that was dry land for 100s of millions of years….

    You need to expand your view.

  11. That sounds very like what you hear up on Murmod Hill in Cavan on a fine morning. Maybe Murmod is downwind from Mars.

  12. You need to expand your view.


    From the climate change denier.

  13. Peter,

    From the climate change denier.

    Exactly mate.
    His rambling response was his usual tactic of trying to divert attention away from the fact the he, yet again, never addressed his original claim. Notice how he continually fails to provide any evidence for his assertion that the solar system is older than science claims it is.
    But that’s par for the course with Patrick.
    He makes lots of outrageous claims, but provides zero evidence to back them up.

  14. From the climate change denier.

    Right there you show you are in a Cult…… I have NEVER said the Climate isn’t changing or doesn’t change….

    I just say Cow Farts can’t change it…… where you believe they can.

    Have a Steak Peter