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Quote:- Boris Johnson has reiterated his promise that businesses in NI will enjoy unfettered access to GB after Brexit, declaring that “there will be no border down the Irish Sea – over my dead body”.

Boris’ Brexit Northern Ireland Protocol states checks will begin on January 1st 2021

And the result of Boris Johnson’s lies, prevarications and mendacity?

This is what happens when you lie to Unionists and Loyalists with SinnFeinIRA eagerly joining in across the fabled PEACE WALL.

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58 thoughts on “Belfast riots: and Boris Johnson’s Lies made these possible.

  1. Someone is in deep sympathy with the violent dregs of a divided society.

    People who have injured a number of police officers. But that’s OK, let’s not mention that.

    They’re rioters, but they’re our rioters.

  2. Anyone who thinks these teenagers are hurling petrol bombs at police and buses because they are concerned about where the customs procedures are situated is a deluded fool.

  3. And as I’ve told you lot

    The cause of riots is rioters.

    ( Apologies to the late great Jack Maple, the late great NYPD theoretician )

  4. These bums have no job, no education, and want neither anytime soon.

    They’re not part of the trading economy, unless we are speaking of buying a 12 pack box of lager on special at Tesco.

    But Mike thinks that they deserve a veto on British trade rules in the aftermath of a complicated Brexit aftermath.

    Magnificent patriots, just like the January 6 defenders of liberty!

  5. I believe that Mike has now made to rioter-symp posts in recent days.

    Mike, under what conditions do you think that it’s OK to riot, to burn down public buses, to injure police officers?

    Do you hold your precious pets to a different standard than say the BLM and Antifa perpetual rioters?

  6. From Noel in Whistling in the Wind ( which I am still blocked out of, otherwise I’d be chatting there )

    You also forgot, Seimi, public resentment at the authorities cracking down on UDA drug dealing.

    People not familiar will the very peculiar street politics of Northern Ireland will find it hard to credit, but that’s apparently one of the reasons, according to those in the know, for this outburst of civic unrest.

    The complaining choir neglected to mention that little fact.

  7. They have you blocked?

    Send Seimi or Paul an email…..

    and Phantom if you don’t want to be here don’t let the door hit you in the ass on the way out……

  8. here ya go Tom I just left them a comment for you……

    So why are you ASSHOLES…… BLOCKING PHANTOM ?

  9. Someone woke up on the wrong side of the dungeon

    I didn’t say that they’re intentionally blocking anyone. It’s a glitch in the stupid wordpress system that has impacted both Colm and myself.

    Will figure it out one of these months

  10. Any commments on the loyalist drug dealers’ arson and cop bashing riot?

    Love love love the way that Mike has turned this around. He is a martial arts jedi master of slickness. The rioters are the victims now!

  11. Patrick

    It doesn’t have to be one site or the other. I like Phantom would also like to comment there and I am and always will be happy here.

  12. No I didn’t wake up on the wrong side of the dungeon…..

    Everyone of you are free to go to their site, I did a promotion for their site when it opened, I support them having a place…. and I am glad they are not here.

    Over the past 6yrs they drove everyone away and I drove them away….

    Now I am in the process of rebuilding this site. In spite of how much you and I fight I like you, and I definitely like Colm also, but if you are more comfortable somewhere else god please go be happy.

    and you will always be welcome here. I have tried repeatedly to get you to be more of a Contributor. You have always had and still do have editorial rights.

    It is you who refused to contribute.

  13. There are other ways to look at the world apart from black and white, partisan party over country, my side right or wrong, boycott everyone if they look at you wrong etc.

    I try to do none of that.

  14. There is only one person Colm who is not welcome here and that’s Dave.

    I would hope you would still come by here, and I would hope it’s not an either or….

    The content of this site has not changed and will not change. What you find here is completely different than what you will find anywhere else but it has always been consistent and will remain so. Even if other voices contribute.

    Others come and go but as long as I live I’ll be here, and David will be here, I believe that also applies to Pete, but we have never spoken so I can’t say what he feels. Mike also has a free pass.

    So this will always be both a NI/British and American Conservative site, no matter how the water flows.

  15. Phantom I respect your point of view I always have. You are a good, decent, smart man. With a much wider perspective than me which is why I’ve busted your balls to write.

    I understand my limitations…. I see greys, but I think and speak in black and white. I can’t change that, it’s how I was raised.

    sorry

  16. Cheers

    And I would hope to see more from Colm, Noel, Charles, and the others here.

    Let a thousand flowers bloom, I see no reason for ATW and the other site or sites to be enemies in any way.

  17. “Now I am in the process of rebuilding this site.”

    With a 2-shot from Tucker? lol

    By the way, Dave is one of the world’s truly good guys, and he demonstrated that over many years.

  18. I offered to help….. you can go read my comments.

    I doubt that they will take advantage of it, but I made the offer sincerely. maybe a little mean but sincere…

  19. Petr I post what I feel is relevant…. Tucker is one of the fairest commentators out there.

    The site needs more eyes and another voice or two would be nice and help in attracting commenters. It is the commenter base that I want to rebuild, and it will come… it just takes time.

  20. That’s fair, Patrick. I’m just poking fun. Have a good day. I hope Monica is doing well.

  21. she is, thanks Petr…

    no understand I just want peace among all of us that have been talking with each other for 20yrs.

    The boys don’t like me and I don’t like them. It got personal and that’s why things went the way it did, but I bear no ill will.

  22. Seimi responded on the other site…. whether or not he can figure it out is the question, but no one is intentionally blocked hopefully he will figure it out.

    WordPress gets very quirky.

    And like I said to him if Phantom and Colm can’t comment they are probably missing others as well.

  23. Riots are the cry of the oppressed and ignored. AOC taught me that.

    PVR –

    Dave is welcome here. Bury your ego.

  24. As far as I am concerned everyone who commented here is a loss when they left. I’d like them all to return.

  25. Hi all. Just popped to say something.

    Pete: Dave may well be welcome, according to yourself, but he is certainly NOT welcomed by Troll, who banned Dave weeks ago, but didn’t have the decency, honesty or integrity to inform anyone, Dave included. No explanation was given; no email sent. He was just banned.
    Dave contacted me to ask would I explain this to you all, as he can no longer access the site in order to comment.
    Troll continues to lie to you all.

    Colm and Phantom: we did receive Troll’s nasty comment regarding Phantom being blocked on our site. Of course, you aren’t, and we’ll look in to possible solutions. You would be very welcome in our little corner of the interweb thingy.

    Good day/evening to you all. No doubt Troll will be along soon to delete this comment and pretend it was never posted.

  26. Nice to hear from you Seimi.I am not pleased to hear about how Dave was treated but I don’t want to get into any arguments about ‘banning’ jeez we had enough of that months ago. I will still try and get onto your new site but i haven’t tried for a while. Good luck and I hope the site is doing well.

  27. PVR –

    Whatever happened with Dave Alton, unban him now. I told you before that this stuff harms the blog. You didn’t listen and a bunch of people left. You do not own ATW so park your ego. If someone annoys you that’s too bad. Try to ignore stuff occasionally. No, we don’t want to discuss your feelings. No-one cares. Unban Dave Alton and anyone else you might have banned, straightaway.

  28. Hey Seimi. Good to see you. I alao tried to commemt and ended up giving up. Will try again though.

    Bring back Dave.

  29. If anyone else has been unable to log on to the other site, please say so, and say what the apparent issue was.

    Let a thousand flowers bloom!

  30. I can’t log in either. WordPress won’t let me use my usual password and I don’t want to change it.

    Dave is great. No reason to ban smart, reasonable, pleasant Dave.

    Troll is a dumpster fire. Maybe he should be banned.

  31. I’d be willing to use a new password, but they are saying that I can’t use the same email address as on ATW, and I really don’t want to go through the bother of having yet another email address.

  32. I didn’t even try that, Phantom. I’m not setting up a new email account, although it would be nice to chat with the guys.

  33. //Whatever happened with Dave Alton, unban him now. I told you before that this stuff harms the blog. You didn’t listen and a bunch of people left. You do not own ATW so park your ego. If someone annoys you that’s too bad. Try to ignore stuff occasionally. No, we don’t want to discuss your feelings. No-one cares. Unban Dave Alton and anyone else you might have banned, straightaway//

    Well said Pete Moore. It was precisely that kind of dishonest ego that made me leave the site. If that kind of integrity in combatting snarling ego trips could be consistently maintained here I may well reconsider my original decision.

    BTW, I hope everyone’s well.

  34. How in the world did the other people sign up for the new blog?

    When prompted To enter an email address, did you use the same email address that you used on a ATW?

  35. On atw I just type in my user name and password

    On the Whistling site it asks for my email and WordPress password. Which doesn’t work 😢

    When I had my WordPress blog, I customized sign in so it was easy. Maybe they could do the same.

  36. Right

    But your a ATW password is a WordPress password

    I don’t see why the same username and password can’t be used on both sites, Subject to approval from the owners of each site

    That’s how blogspot ( google ) blogs work

    WordPress is set up wrong.

  37. sorry but no….. and I’m not fighting this all out again and again and again……

    This site detreated into a hate fest and that had to end. Blame it on me I take full responsibility. And guess what….. it’s ok.

    I accept it, freely and openly. Everyone except Dave is welcome and Dave asked to be banned, it was his choice and I obliged. End of story. It is not up for discussion except between Dave and I and that is up to him. I’m not reaching out.

    You want to talk about my ego….. my nasty ego went right over and bitched that two people I care about couldn’t comment on a site I don’t care about, but understand that most here do…

    I even offered my help TWICE because I’ve been working with WordPress for 20 years I know it’s quirks. My offer was sincere and genuine in spite of the tic turd still calling me a Liar.

    So take your check your ego and look yourself in the mirror with it. I’m not the one who needs to humble themselves.

    I wish Seimi well, I’m sure in time he’ll work the wrinkles out…. it takes a little more time and effort than you think, but he’s smart and will learn in time. You can’t run a site and not have issues.

    You all bitch. I’m a prick and an asshole. What you don’t know or understand is that this site has been run by me with permission of the owner for over 5 years….

    I never overplayed nuthin never stomped or censured any of you, none of you knew nor would you ever until the last 6 months and then things needed to change.

    All in all it wasn’t bloodless, but it was amicable.

    You can chat on both sites, I hope you do. You can leave this site which I hope you don’t but so be it… if that’s the case I wish you well, Live Long and Prosper.

    A Tangled Web is a NI/British/American site. It will discuss the politics of both… it will not be a place where personal attacks are accepted.

    I will not be called a Liar, I can be wrong but I don’t Lie. Some people could not get through the day without making it their holy mission to call me a liar, that is not acceptable.

    If that is to hard for anyone to accept or understand too bad… that’s the way it is.

    Look at this thread…. every interaction with Seimi and Dave with me brings the site to a shit fest….. fuck that. I won’t have it.

    If you choose one site over the other god bless you, but understand it is you that make that choice no one else…. I hope you choose both.

    I however will be here and only here this is MY HOME. Seimi I offered, and since I only upset things over your site I will not stop by and upset you or your readers, you are however welcome here as is anyone else…. except Dave by his own choice.

    This site is NOT about me, it’s about the news. If you need to make it about me you need to find somewhere else, as some have.

    This topic for me is over. I won’t be commenting about it, or the other site again.

    I don’t want arguments except in the arena of ideas and philosophies and disagreements about the events occurring around us.

    If you can’t do that then just go away…. Stop already.

    Paddy

  38. A few points and then I will withdraw.

    //If that kind of integrity in combatting snarling ego trips could be consistently maintained here I may well reconsider my original decision.//

    As can be seen from the reply above, Pete’s request has fallen on deaf – not to mention, dumb – ears. Every comment is an excuse for a pathetic ‘me, me, me’ whine-fest. This won’t change, ever. It’s too deeply entrenched.

    //Blame it on me I take full responsibility.//

    Good. Because it IS your fault and it’s a refreshing change to see you actually take responsibility for once.

    //Everyone except Dave is welcome and Dave asked to be banned, it was his choice and I obliged. End of story. It is not up for discussion except between Dave and I and that is up to him. I’m not reaching out.//

    Dave Alton ran rings around you on every subject you discussed. He also called you out on shit, when you talked shit. Having a glass chin and wafer-thin skin, you were incapable of taking this, so you banned him. And you didn’t even have the courtesy to tell him via email, nor did you possess the balls to tell anyone else here, because you knew there would be complaints. And you have somehow convinced yourself that it’s up to HIM to ‘reach out’ to YOU!? You’re even more stupid than yourself, and that really takes some doing!

    //You want to talk about my ego….. my nasty ego went right over and bitched that two people I care about couldn’t comment on a site I don’t care about, but understand that most here do…//

    You went right over there and called myself and Paul assholes, without even verifying with Phantom that he had been blocked. Then you tried to backtrack and offered help. And for someone who apparently doesn’t care about our site, you have commented there many times, and mentioned the site or referred to it many more times here.

    //My offer was sincere and genuine in spite of the tic turd still calling me a Liar.//

    Here we go with more insults. You were called a liar because of the multiple lies you told, tell and are telling. Many of these have been pointed out to you, by many people. Seamus offered you some sage advice on this a few times: if you don’t want to be called a liar, don’t tell lies.

    //You all bitch. I’m a prick and an asshole. What you don’t know or understand is that this site has been run by me with permission of the owner for over 5 years….//

    Most other people, with the help of self-reflection and honesty, would at some point stop and ask themselves, “Is it actually me who is flawed or wrong here? Everyone keeps bitching at me and calling me names: are they all wrong, or could it be me? And, if it’s me, is there anything I can do about that?”
    A very tiny minority would write endless self-pity, ‘I am what I am’ posts and continue to fly off the handle and attack other commenters.

    //All in all it wasn’t bloodless, but it was amicable.//

    That is simply untrue. It was NOT amicable. Had things been amicable in the first place, the chances are nobody would have left.

    //A Tangled Web is a NI/British/American site. It will discuss the politics of both… it will not be a place where personal attacks are accepted.//

    Ah, so you’re leaving then?

    //I will not be called a Liar, I can be wrong but I don’t Lie. Some people could not get through the day without making it their holy mission to call me a liar, that is not acceptable.//

    You present a very interesting dilemma. You don’t wish to be called a liar, but to not do so could make the other person a liar. Be true to yourself, or false to someone else…that’s a tough one…

    //Look at this thread…. every interaction with Seimi and Dave with me brings the site to a shit fest….. fuck that. I won’t have it.//

    Don’t worry, I’m almost done here. I’ll go back and play on my own side of the street shortly.

    //I however will be here and only here this is MY HOME. Seimi I offered, and since I only upset things over your site I will not stop by and upset you or your readers, you are however welcome here as is anyone else…. except Dave by his own choice.//

    Where did you get the idea that you upset anything or anyone over on Whistling in the Wind? As has been pointed out, from the very start – nobody is blocked or barred over there. You have made the claim on a number of occasions, but on this point I am happy to accept that you are merely wrong, rather than lying. We have one basic, golden rule: Don’t be a dick. By this we mean that you can shout and yell; you can curse, swear and use bad language. But you can’t abuse people and you. Cannot. Lie. This will not be tolerated. But put any fears or thoughts that you may have upset anything out of your delicate head: you haven’t.

    //This site is NOT about me, it’s about the news. If you need to make it about me you need to find somewhere else, as some have.//

    This site used to be about discussion and debate. You turned it into a site on which your thoughts and beliefs are posted and discussed, mainly by yourself. It has become the online version of multiple personality disorder. It is most definitely about you, with bit-parts played by a few others.

    //This topic for me is over. I won’t be commenting about it, or the other site again.//

    Again, I will generously put this done to merely being incorrect, rather than deliberately telling ‘alternate truths.’ I would be willing to bet substantial amounts of money that this wasn’t your last comment on the subject, on either site.

    //I don’t want arguments except in the arena of ideas and philosophies and disagreements about the events occurring around us.//

    You forgot to mention yourself in there. You love arguing about yourself.

    //If you can’t do that then just go away…. Stop already.//

    Okay, okay. I’m done now. For more witty banter, snappy comebacks and suave, sophisticated hosts, come on over to https://whistlinginthewindorg.wordpress.com/ We put the ‘Cuss’ in ‘Discussion’ and the ‘Master’ in ‘Debate’ 🙂

  39. The site ultimately asks me to enter a password but then it does not recognize the password that I use here

  40. Charles, he would make a good Texan. Suspect Pete might make a turn when he saw his property taxes.

  41. Still no good.

    Way too hard. Again, this doesn’t happen on other platforms.

    Cheers.

  42. there are 3 very simple ways around their problem but it depends on each of you….

    at the bottom of the comment box it gives you 3 alternative options… if you have any of those 3 you don’t need your wordpress login Google, twitter, or facebook…. that’s the easiest work around a gmail acct or twitter you login to one of those and then authorize the app…..

  43. Yes, but I never use google or facebook to log onto any other site, because I don’t trust any cross platform credentialing.

    I’d think if you do that you’ve at a minimum doubled your chance of being personally hacked, and you allow google and facebook more opportunity to collect personal information on you.

    I trust the worst government in the world more than I trust facebook. If wordpress has teamed up with facebook, that tells you something bad about wordpress.

    Beware.

  44. it’s the login module it has preset default….

    and yes you hack one you can hack them all…. so cross logging does increase that possibility.

    But Phantom 99% of hacks happen at the retail level Amazon gets, hacked, the DMV gets hacked. The hackers harvest large corporate registries to steal identities. We are all vulnerable.

    Everyone should have lifelock or some other monitoring service.

  45. That’s correct

    A really big US insurance company ( CNA ) has systems taken down by some ransomware people very recently. Big problem for the many corporates across the country who depend on them

    I dont trust company or government security, especially State or local governments, which can be a bunch of lowest bidder morons

  46. none of it is secure there are rooms of full of genius little nerds in every country in the world paid to do nothing but look for holes… some government, some criminal, some anarchist….

    all looking for information to exploit….

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