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NO MAJORITY FOR STURGEON

By Pete Moore On May 8th, 2021

The Jock results are still coming in, the result of a ludicrous system involving second preference votes, regional lists and whether candidates had a fry up or porridge for breakfast. Elections should be simple and transparent, not designed by academics and bureaucrats.

It appears that wee Nicola and the Scottish national socialists won’t be getting an outright majority. She’ll put a brave face on it, probably painted blue, but it’ll sting. The SNP will claim that with the Commie-Greens the parties in favour of another referendum will have a majority. They’ll claim it as a mandate, but it’s drivel. If you want another referendum you vote SNP, not Green.

7 Responses to “NO MAJORITY FOR STURGEON”

  1. Wee Kranky wants her place at the top table of avarice at Brussels.

    And it appears nothing, not Scotland, the Scots, the English that fund her, or anything else is going to get in her way of obtaining her place at that Brussels trough of plenty.

  2. You’re contradicting yourself. They won 62 out of 73 seats on a first past post system. The regional lists pretty much cancels out that support due the the way it works.

    However, in the regional vote the SNP, Greens and Alba had approx 52% of the vote. As you know, a referendum is first past the vote.

    But, while people may want independence, they may have more concerns for the environment. That doesn’t mean their vote for independence won’t count any less just because they turn up at the polling booth in a Tesla, and wearing clogs.

  3. Elections should be simple and transparent, not designed by academics and bureaucrats.

    No, elections should be fair. If Scotland did not have a partly PR voting system the SNP would have a comfortable majority. They won 62 of the 73 first past the post constituencies. But thanks to the PR topup votes they won only 2 of the 67 regional seats. That’s what has prevented them winning an overall majority.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/topics/c37d28xdn99t/scottish-parliament-election-2021

  4. Peter –

    You cannot design “fairness” into a system because it is a subjective concept. Simplicity and transparency, however, aids fairness as an aim.

    The average voter has no idea what these regional top up list thingies are. That alone makes them unacceptable and a poor mechanism.

  5. You cannot design “fairness” into a system because it is a subjective concept.

    Rubbish. Almost every democracy in the world has a proportional system of voting. The idea is if you get 40% of the votes you get 40% of the seats. It’s not rocket science.

    As I pointed out to you, if your beloved “simplicity” system of first past the post applied in Scotland the SNP would have won a huge overall majority on less than 50% of the vote. That’s not democracy. Or maybe it is in your book.

  6. The idea is if you get 40% of the votes you get 40% of the seats.

    But not someone you voted for, just a machine politician who owes their allegiance to party and not the electorate.

    And if PR is fair then why the need for regional top up candidates?

    PR might be “fair” in an abstract way but it’s inherently unstable and leads to bad government. It almost always leads to coalitions, comprise and corruption, all far detached from voters. Therefore it’s a recipe for political and social unrest.

  7. It almost always leads to coalitions, comprise and corruption, all far detached from voters.

    Westminster has first past the post and as we are seeing, it also has corruption.

    How is PR “detached from voters” when it reflects their votes fairly on a national basis? FPTP would have given the SNP 90% of the Scottish parliament on 45% of the votes cast. Most of us would say that would be extremely “detached from voters” but presumably you would prefer that outcome to the one that Scotland actually has tonight. Absurd.