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I give you Geert Wilders, a brave man; one who is willing to stand up and be counted. Amongst his ‘medals and decorations’ he can proudly state that he was banned from entry to Britain by the Home Secretary, but came later, showed his film and said his piece, and the world did not fall apart; despite what Lord Ahmed said.

And so, courtesy of Fox News, Mr Wilders:-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oE0SMdKn71g
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35 thoughts on “A clip which will not be shown on the Beeb

  1. Wilders is right on the money here. Islam is creeping into the Western world slowly but very surely. It will not happen all at once but bit by bit Islam will slowly take over all of Europe and ultimately the world. Why? Because we are so scared of being called racist and so our so-called leaders would rather sit back and do nothing. The Islamic agenda here is to front up to every perceived insult with the threat of death through fatwa while pushing all the time for their so-called ‘rights’. Of course, they will allow nobody outside of Islam any rights, hence, death by stoning etc. There is a determination within Islam that is sadly missing in our own indigenous people. Fight against it and you are a ‘racist’ and the full force of our laws is turned against you. Fight or die – your choice.

  2. jimmywon,

    “Why? Because we are so scared of being called racist and so our so-called leaders would rather sit back and do nothing.”

    I would suggest that it is probably because we no longer believe in the religious values that gave the basis for these anti racist/discriminatory policies, and forgot that that same religion cautioned that “Thou shalt have no other god besides Me.”

  3. Far from Islam “slowly taking over all of Europe and ultimately the world” (yeah), the situation will almost certainly be the opposite. Western society (barring some economic collapse etc) will have the same effect on Muslim youth as it did on Christian. They will become more materialist, pleasure-seeking and secular. You can already see this happening.

    “How ya gonna keep ’em down in the Mosque, after they’ve seen Pareeeee!”

  4. Or for some of them

    “How you gonna keep ’em down in the Mosque once they’ve seen Gay Pareeeee” 🙂

  5. LOL, Colm

    How ya gonna keep ’em down in the Mosque
    After they’ve seen Pareeeee?
    How ya gonna keep their faith in Sharia
    When they’re jazzin around and kissin’ Maria
    How ya gonna keep ’em away from harm,
    That’s a mystereyyyyyy

    Mother Alyseh, I’m not fakin’
    Tho you may think it strange
    But it’s wine and women and a bit of bacon
    for our boy when he’s loose with change

    So it’s no more Koran or Kismet for Abdullah
    And who the hell wants to parley-vous with a Mullah?
    How ya gonna keep ’em down in the Mosque
    After they’ve seen Pareeeee!

  6. Easy. Female Genital Mutilation, Physical violence in the Madrassars and the threat of the eyeslamic equivalent of excommunication. Ka Boom! the Religion of Pieces strikes again.

    NEXT!!!

  7. ““How ya gonna keep ‘em down in the Mosque, after they’ve seen Pareeeee!”
    Because
    a)their religious identity and attitude to women is very different to us in the West.
    b) similar to the Jews they see themselves as separate and in some ways superior to us.
    c) their difference and perceived aggression has made them feel rejected, and so they cling more fiercely to their roots.

  8. Agit8ed, you and Allan are much more alike in your views and methods than either of you think.

  9. Noel,
    Rubbish!
    I don’t even like Aberdeen!
    And what I wrote above is still true..

  10. I want Allan to write about Aberdeen. I don’t even think that I know anyone who has been there. It’s as strange to me as Timbuktu or Brownsville, Texas.

  11. //And what I wrote above is still true..//

    No, it isn’t. It’s total bullshit. Like Allan, you say things just because they sound like they fit into your distorted view of the world, with no reference to reality. If you (plu.) took off the blinkers, you’d see that the vast majority of Muslims/Jews are individauls who don’t fit into your mad ethnic-centric view of the world so conveniently arranged into neat groups.
    Like everybody else, most of them just want to enjoy life, get on in their jobs and look after their families.

    You say you like arguing but were unable to offer a single concrete argument against that long comment of mine yesterday, which was wide open to dispute, because you can only generalise with piecemeal opinion picked up from the Internet, in-flight magazines and the gossip of others as lost in the same fog as you are.
    (I bet you didnt even see how you tied yourself up with those crazy comments about folks in NI)

    Both of you see things in terms of race and believe there is a vast conspiracy by some baddies to take over your silly little worlds. Grow up.

  12. Aberdeen is attractive in parts, but you would have no doubt that you were no longer in England.
    My son in law is from Aberdeen. He is a clever, if somewhat self important engineer in the oil industry.
    There is some beautiful countryside, and the River Dee ois lovely.

    I haven’t yet located Allan’s attic headquarters. The only clue to its location I have is that the street outside is covered in Haggis droppings….

  13. Phantom, it’s a great place: the route from Edinburgh to there and from there to Inverness is truly a beauty, and you’re the kind of guy who would really enjoy the great people you meet everywhere in the region.

  14. //My son in law is from Aberdeen. He is a clever, if somewhat self important engineer in the oil industry.//

    What? Has he ever been in the room with you while “Allan” was posting on ATW?

    This is all beginning to make sense.

  15. I’ve barely been to Scotland, basically just one day in Edinburgh.

    I intend to rectify the oversight one year.

  16. “Like everybody else, most of them just want to enjoy life, get on in their jobs and look after their families.”

    If only our families were the only influence on our lives. But they’re not are they Noel?
    We are all influenced by the communities we grow up in, whether we like it or not.
    And it sounds like you definitely don’t What gets up your nose about your background?

    Incidentally, I don’t have to rely on “piecemeal opinion picked up from the Internet, in-flight magazines and the gossip of others as lost in the same fog as you are”
    I’ve been out in the world, travelled in the world, and done stuff. In fact, I spent seventeen years of my life working as a volunteer both in the UK and abroad with various organisations.

    Seventeen years, Noel.
    Didn’t have time for the internet ’til recently.

    You may find it very irritating, but as long as Allan and his supporters keep unfairly criticising Israel or Jewish people, I’ll keep opposing them. Can’t say fairer than that, now can I?

  17. //I’ve been out in the world, travelled in the world, and done stuff. In fact, I spent seventeen years of my life working as a volunteer both in the UK and abroad//

    Well, if you’d kept an open mind while doing so, you would have noticed that among Muslims in the west the birth rate is decreasing and approaching the national average, that most – far from being fanatics wishing to take over the West – are not even particularly religious and most women don’t even wear headscarves, and – most relevant to the paranoia about an imminent takeover by “Islam” – more peple are becoming less observant of religion and traditions as time goes by and not more so, as the paranoiacs would have us believe.

    You would also have noticed that Britain has by no means one of the highest percentages of Muslims in Europe, and in the countries with higher M populations most of them are much better integrated – and becoming increasingly integrated – than the generally S.Asian pop. in the UK.

  18. “Well, if you’d kept an open mind while doing so..!”

    I’ve always had an open mind Noel. I like to learn from other people, even those I disagree with. But I told you, I like arguing. It’s in the arguing that sooner or later people often reveal what’s really going on emotionally.Sooner or later, the mask slips and the truth is revealed.

    Now if you listen to the clip again, you will notice Mr Wilders is talking primarily about Holland, not the UK; and that Mr Wilders has to have round the clock protection because he speaks out about what he sees as the danger of the creeping Islamisation of Europe.
    If you disagree with Mr Wilders, you could email him. I have.

  19. “will notice Mr Wilders is talking primarily about Holland, not the UK; and that Mr Wilders has to have round the clock protection because he speaks out about what he sees as the danger of the creeping Islamisation of Europe”

    What are you trying to say, that I should change my opinion becuase of that?

  20. Noel,

    One of the little gems you seem never to have heard of is ‘that travel broadens the mind’. That alone gives Agit8ed a head start on you. Not just annual holday jaunts either, they don’t count, – you need to live among people to understand their P.O.V. – or as some might say, – where they are coming from.

    It’s all very fine reading others experiences and opinions, but if we have no idea of their original position prior to putting pen to paper, we can only make assumptions of the intellectual value of their writing. Wilders writings are a good example – his validity of opinion has to be that he has ‘been there, seen that and done that!’. We know ‘where he is coming from’. Whether we agree or disagree with him is entirely another matter.

  21. Colm,
    Not really the point.
    The point is I found out how to contact him, and I did.

    Now one of the reasons I did, was because as he says, he and his family have lost their freedom for speaking out, not rudely or impolitely, on an issue that he as a politician in a supposedly free nation, feels strongly about.
    Just the same as Salman Rushdie lost his freedom for writing his book, the Satanic Verses.

    Even though I am against Gay marriage and the Gay life style in general, if you lived next to me we would invite you round for a meal, and you could put me right on Northern Ireland, and hopefully we’d have some kind of friendship going.
    Now if someone wanted to have a go at you, I would like to think I would stick up for you. I believe in freedom, but not the freedom to destroy those same freedoms.
    (If you see what I mean.)

  22. “What are you trying to say, that I should change my opinion becuase of that?”

    No, I’m not saying that. Just that primarily he is talking about Europe in general, and Holland in particular.
    Also despite your very witty take on Eddie Cantor’s “How Ya Gonna Keep ’em Down On The Farm..” the fact remains that a significant number of young Muslims feel alienated from our society, and they aren’t going to integrate. And as you know from the situation in Northern Ireland, it only takes a relatively small group of alienated or angry men to turn to violence..

    Incidentally those rockets
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17934042
    ain’t there to take young people anywhere near “Gay Paree..”
    They’re just a token of how seriously our government is taking the threat of a terrorist attack during the Olympic Games.

    Mind you, you could email the government and tell ’em it’s not really necessary, as, now how did you put it?

    “Like everybody else, most of them just want to enjoy life, get on in their jobs and look after their families.”
    It’s the ones that don’t, we have to worry about.

  23. //It’s the ones that don’t, we have to worry about.
    //

    Oh, I see. So your “they” in your three points at 12:29 really refers only to a small minority.
    Blast, I wish I’d known that at the time, would have saved us both a lot of bother. After all, I never said there were NO dangerous Muslims at all, did I ?

    But for you as least it’s better late than never coming around to my point of view, that a minority of Muslims are dangerous but most are not, which is what Ive been saying all along.

  24. Noel,
    You are “on the wobble”, my old son!
    Look back at some of my earlier posts on Muslims and you will see that I have never said all are bad, that the majority are trying to settle -but not necessarily integrate. A difference.

    I have said in line with my anti multicultural stance, that allowing different religions and cultures side by side does not work. That everyone should be in their own homeland, and we should respect their way of life and not seek to impose our values on them.

    The only time it can work, is if there is something greater than the different cultures commanding loyalty and respect e.g. the USA, or a few other states where enlightened self interest prevails.

  25. Wilders is a fraud.

    Consider what Wilders has said and done. He has said that he doesn’t care what colour of person comes to Holland – black, brown, green, yellow – as long as that person doesn’t advance islam. The result will be the end of Hollanders in their own country. Wilders is a zionist, and Israeli flags fly at rallies of his party.

    The British equivalent of Wilders’s party is the English Defence League set up by a zionst businessman and fronted by a Tommy Robinson. At one of their gatherings, Robinson told the throng of white supporters that the black guy standing behind him is as English as they are. They cheered because they are stupid and can’t see that the result will be the end of themselves – white Englishmen.

    If a creed is to be used as a diversion, then I’d choose the overtly nastiest and most threatening which islam truly appears to be.

  26. Allan,
    He’s such a fraud that him and his family has to have 24/7 protection…

    “Wilders is a zionist, and Israeli flags fly at rallies of his party.”

    Oh my Goodness Allan,
    Can life get any worse for you?
    Time to go bash the haggis……. 😉

  27. Phantom – why don’t you start thinking? Did you watch the video?

  28. Wilders is a fraud. He has 24-hour protection but protection from what?

    Maybe from the same fate that happened to Pim Fortuym and Theo van Gogh

  29. Pim Fortuyn was murdered by a lefty fruit cake. Theo van Gogh never had any security at all which, considering his views being even more outspoken (though not incorrect on islam) was a bit risky and naive. When one reads of 24-hour security, what exactly does that mean? Besides, if Wilders is an Israeli asset, and it looks probable, then he’ll be very well looked after. On the other hand, Marine Le Pen should be very careful.

    There was another ‘far-right’ politician who had similar views on islam as Wilders, but his views on Israel were not so zionist. He died in a bizarre car crash which Volkswagen declared to be almost identical to that of Princess Di – drunk as a pig, speedometer froze at 80mph etc. If Joerg Haider had lived, he would have taken control of Austria’s money.

    I’ve been drunk as a pig, and I certainly couldn’t do that. It’s a bit strange but whenever one actually examines the official narrative, holes just keep appearing.

  30. “Besides, if Wilders is an Israeli asset, and it looks probable, then he’ll be very well looked after. On the other hand, Marine Le Pen should be very careful.”

    “but his views on Israel were not so zionist. He died in a bizarre car crash which Volkswagen declared to be almost identical to that of Princess Di – drunk as a pig, speedometer froze at 80mph etc. If Joerg Haider had lived, he would have taken control of Austria’s money. ”

    “The British equivalent of Wilders’s party is the English Defence League set up by a zionst businessman and fronted by a Tommy Robinson.”

    Allan,
    Did you escape from “The Matrix”??

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