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I was putting together a post on the Mexican/California border (which is a sieve) and the Mexican drug cartels setting up shop in Los Angeles (thanks to our lack of border controls) when I came across this UK statistic:

Between 2002 and 2007, Pakistani nationals entering the UK grew from 8,000 to 27,000.

Wow. Maybe I haven’t been paying enough attention. Readers in the UK: did you know the number was this high?

“(United Kingdom) A disturbing report is surfacing in the UK from the TimesOnLine.

Thousands of young Pakistanis exploited a hole in Britain’s immigration defences to enroll as students at a network of sham colleges, The Times can reveal.

The gateway, opened by fraudsters who have earned millions from the scam, has allowed in hundreds of men from a region of Pakistan that is the militant heartland of al-Qaeda and the Pakistani Taleban.

Eight of the terror suspects arrested last month in Manchester and Liverpool were on the books of one college. It had three small classrooms and three teachers for the 1,797 students on its books. Another college claimed to have 150 students but secretly enrolled 1,178 and offered places to a further 1,575 overseas applicants, 906 of them in Pakistan.

Eleven colleges in London, Manchester and Bradford have been tied to three Pakistani businessman running the fraudulent scheme which reportedly has fueled a surge in student arrivals from Pakistan. Between 2002 and 2007, Pakistani nationals entering the UK grew from 8,000 to 27,000.”

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19 thoughts on “A Disturbing Report

  1. Patty

    Yes, the arrests last month brought this problem into the open and of course yet another "crackdown" was promised by our oh so vigilant government. And of course either nothing effective will be done or a new loophole will be engineered.

    You guys need an iron curtain solution to the Mexican problem. Nothing else will work.

  2. I wouldn’t want any Iron Curtain. In many of the border areas, there are ties of family and friendship that go both ways.

    This issue can largely be solved via sanctions against anyone who knowingly hires illegals, and by verification of citizenship in all work situations.

    Not that either party has stepped up to the plate on the issue though.

  3. I’m surprised the figure’s that low.

    Patty –

    You have to realise, our Enemy Class – politicians, senior civil servants, Judiciary, the cultural elite, the influential media – hates our nation, despises our heritage and history and has been at war culturally with the British people for decades.

    The Enemy Class, comprising of almost entirely of tax parasites, cannot wait for the British people to be subsumed wholly into foreign servitude, our identity wiped out and our history forgotten.

    Even with the clear and undeniable links bettwen terror and Pakistan, even after 52 people have been butchered by Pakistani terrorists in London, our enemy regards it as unthinkable that immigration from Pakistan should be meaningfully diminished.

    The wonder isn’t that the BNP is gaining support, it’s that we don’t yet have a BNP government.

  4. While there are many fine people from Pakistan, if you are letting in large numbers from there – especially males of a university age – you are opening the exit gates of Heathrow to the Taliban itself. Can’t be denied.

  5. Phantom

    A Berlin wall might help to reduce the tidal wave of drugs flooding into the USA from South America, as well as giving you control of your border.

  6. No way. That genie is out of the bottle.

    The problem is not that there are Colombians and Mexicans and Afghans producing and transporting the drugs. The problem is that there are Americans, and Canadians and British who as so completely devoid of human personality that they want and need the drugs, and who don’t mind supporting the criminals and terrorists who produce drugs for them.

    In a world of vast international travel and trade, when trains, cars, buses, trucks, and airplanes are crossing borders every second and where ships are carrying vast cargoes from one point of the globe to another, there is no way you will stop the drugs trade.

    Suppressing it only drives up the price for that which makes it in. If all the drugs trade from South America were stopped, I don’t even think that this would change much. There are many ways for drugs to get in here.

  7. The problem, Phantom, is that there are sophisticated ruthless gangs claiming turf in los angeles – gangs with direct ties to the large Mexican drug cartels, gangs that use strangulation, and beheadings, as well as bribery and blackmail to get their way. Think Mexican mafia.

    Controlling the border and deporting Mexican gang illegals would reduce the physical possiblity of a kidnapping or strangulation, or a cop shooting, and would make law enforcement easier.

  8. Hi Patty

    i know that problem exists.

    That’s one of the reasons I support legalization of drugs, or big steps in that direction – it would defund the gangs to a large extent, make gang life a lot less atttractive.

    I’m all for controlling the border. And what is needed in some places is going to be a lot more intense than in others. But we don’t need to go to a militarized border – its politically impossible anyway.

    BTW, another benefit of legalization would be, over time, fewer drug arrests, and fewer people in prison. Which means less need for tax to support the prisons.

    Heading out now.

    Have a good Memorial Day / Bank Holiday all.

  9. Phantom

    I sympathise with your view on drugs. It is clear that the so-called "war on drugs" has been totally lost and other strategies need to be considered. But instead, in the UK, we see yet more drugs that are currently legal now being banned.

    But you guys still need to get control of that border.

  10. >>Between 2002 and 2007, Pakistani nationals entering the UK grew from 8,000 to 27,000.<<

    I presume that’s in millimetres, not inches, but even still… Must be all that good English food!

    Patty, a lot of your readers don’t seem to know – but how could they – that the figures, and the post, relate to Pakistani students with a study visa for the UK, i.e. not necessarily Pakistanis actually in Britain, and most certainly not Pakistani immigrants to Britain.

  11. Peter –

    Well it’s not really correct to say that the war on drugs has been lost. There hasn’t been one.

    Noel Cunningham –

    The subject of Patty’s post is clear. And of course the numbers don’t relate to Pakistani immgrant figures. These are far higher.

  12. Noel: Pete’s correct, of course.

    How could they know? For starters, they could read the post. ๐Ÿ™‚

  13. Pete Moore

    No "war on drugs"?

    Half of the prisoners in the UK are inside because of drugs. Despite this, the problems of addiction and associated crime (burglaries, muggings, beatings, prostitution, murder) get worse each year.

    So an innefectual war for sure.

    Time to re-think, and let’s have an honest open debate, with nothing ruled out. But of course that is impossible as long as your beloved Daily Mail is allowed to set the agenda.

  14. A huge percentage of the prison population here is the result of drugs charges too.

    It’s the new Prohibition. And it’s just as ineffective, and just as wrong, and just as much a waste of the people’s wealth and just as much a distorter of society now as then.

    It will be the job of thinking conservatives in the WF Buckley mold to put an end to this. Libs won’t do it, as they’d be attacked by conservatives – both those who are genuinely opposed to legalization, and by the Rush Limbaa types who want to score points.

  15. Patty, no offence, but my only amazement is that you sound so surprised, as if we weren’t aware of the issue!
    27,000? That’s hardly even 1% of the scale of our problem! Would that there were ONLY 27,000 illegal/unwanted/anti-British immigrants here! That would be a welcome relief, at this stage in the game!!

  16. and the Mexican drug cartels setting up shop in Los Angeles (thanks to our lack of border controls)

    Thats globalisation for you. It was much better when they were State run Nicaraguan operations.

  17. Actually, it’s the RATE of increase, Tom, that surprises me. And the fact that it’s RECENT. From 2002 to 2007, an almost four fold increase!

  18. >>Actually, it’s the RATE of increase, Tom, that surprises me. And the fact that it’s RECENT. From 2002 to 2007, an almost four fold increase!<<

    Patty, you and Tom are talking about different things.
    Because, err.. your post is not clear on what it is talking about, as I said on Friday.

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