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So what do you make of the news that fortnightly rubbish collections may not work in built-up areas and there is no proof they increase recycling?  About 140 councils in England have adopted alternate week collection schemes. Recycling is taken one week and other non-recyclable household waste – including food – the next. Critics say kitchen waste is left to rot for up to a fortnight and encourages vermin such as rats and flies to flourish.


Here in Northern Ireland, we get a fortnightly collection and to be honest, it works fine for my family in the main. But I live in a very rural spot and I would think inner city/ high density living situations are very different. I also think that the whole recycling thing is a bit of a con as I believe that the real agenda is about reducing the level of local Government service in the guise of environmentalism whilst cranking up our rates. My wife recycles. I don’t. However if Government is so concerned about the cost of weekly waste collections, why not just contract it all out to the private sector and sack all council workers in this area? I bet it can be done more efficiently, more courteously if it is customer driven, not town hall bureaucrat driven.


Of course we know that all this agitation is being driven by mandatory EU targets, and it shows how lamentably weak our own Government really is, being driven to cut back on services to the British people by the unelected EU overlords.

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14 thoughts on “A LOAD OF RUBBISH!

  1. However if Government is so concerned about the cost of weekly waste collections, why not just contract it all out to the private sector and sack all council workers in this area? I bet it can be done more efficiently, more courteously if it is customer driven, not town hall bureaucrat driven.

    Trust me, but you dont want to go there. We have it in the ROI, where private companies have taken over the collection of rubbish under the licence of the councils. The result, year on year massive increases in the collection costs to ridiculous levels, and in all likelihood it is the ROI operators that would contend for the operation of these services in NI, should they become open.

  2. Kloot,

    Yes, the problem is that it remains "under the license" of the Councils. I see that as the big issue. I think it should be divorced entirely from government.

  3. The EU directive agreed by our elected Government in 1999 says that no more than three quarters of biodegradable household waste can be dumped in landfill by 2010 – nothing wrong with that, essential really. This being Britain – Gordon Brown hiked landfill taxes, placing extra financial pressure on councils to recycle. The alternate weekly collection was proposed as a cost-saving measure with predicted savings of £50,000 in 2007-8 and £250,000 in 2008-9.

    Most collections are privatised in the UK. So it seems to me that it has absolutely nothing to do with the environment and more to do with maximising taxes and also the profits of the companies supposedly collecting refuse. They now look for every way of increasing their revenues and taxes. A little hike here, turn up less often, reduce the work force. Nice little earner and pretend to be green. Meanwhile the landfill issues we need to solve arent really solved.

    (Central London gets full collections every other day btw and recycled stuff once a week, not sure how other inner cities fare).

  4. Alison,

    Yeah, it’s the pretense of "being green" that sickens me most when as you point out,it’s all about Brown’s quest for MORE taxes. And to think they call him prudence.

  5. David,

    NI is all Wheelie bins isnt it ?

    We have black(ordinary waste) and green(paper, tins, but no plastic or glass) bins at the moment, and here in Dublin the black bins are collected weekly and the green ones every month.

    The green ones lifts are free but we pay per black lift. Theres talk of another bin for plastics/glass, but to be honest, im not sure where they think people will have the room to put them all. Also there is a grant for one of those compost bins that sit in your back garden for some of the household decomposable waste.

    There is a lot of cost involved in disposing of household waste in the ROI, and it differs across the country, waterford for example charges something like 20 Euro a lift of your black bin. Madness. Because of this cost we are seeing an increase in illegal dumping across the ROI and stretching into NI where dodgy characters are dumping our waste across the border.

    Ive heard that most of our plastics dont even get recycled in the ROI or indeed the UK, and that they are instead shipped to china.

  6. 20 Euro a lift is expensive.

    In Belfast we have black wheelie bins (of which I have two) which are emptied each week and a black box for recycling, which is also lifted every week by Bryson house-not the council. In some areas of Belfast they have Blue wheelies for recycled waste which I believe are council and are lifted every fortnight. The payment for this at present is included in the rates. I pay £2 per fortnight per bin to a man in a van to hose out the bins and replace the inner bag which is huge. Thats privately run.Special collections of large waste ie fridges is a matter of ringing the council and asking them to come and lift it, which they do and are pretty good about it. My street is swept each week, and once or twice a year the council, put insecticide down to kill weeds growing along garden walls etc, with the grass cut regullarly each summer. Hedges are your own affair usually, but they do come out in a lorry with a lift to cut over hanging trees.

    I feel we get a pretty good service.

  7. Hannah, that sounds like a great service. We do have the road brushers and weed killer jobs as well, but I suspect that they are more frequent in the city then in the townlands.

    Regarding fridges, the ROI was one of the first to implement the European WEEE directive on the disposal of electrical goods, the effect of this was, that previously you could bring your fridge down to your local council depot and for 5 Euro or something like that, they would take it off your hands. Now, when you buy an electrical good, be it a washing machine or even an electrical toothbrush, you pay on top of the price, a WEEE charge, which varies depending on the category of the goods. Basically, you pay up front into a fund for the future disposal of your electrical goods. As far as im aware, the UK is in plans for the introduction of this soon as well… I await a thread on it 🙂

  8. Bins with food waste being emptied every 14 days involves serious risk of disease spread by certain vectors – rats, mice, flies. This will soon become an issue but it won’t directly affect those who brought about the forthcoming crisis. The main problem is that the clique who rule us are far removed from the consequences of their diktat. Not for them the effects of ‘vibrant’ multi-culti induced crime and disease (TB, Hepatitis C, HIV) – and now this!

  9. Allan,

    Did you see that a particulary nasty bug has started to appear in the North-East of England where the 2 weekly collection has been imposed? This risk of disease spread has been played down as you suggest.

  10. David

    We manage easily with a two week cycle. But there only two of us at home most of the time as our daughter is away from home. I don’t know how larger households cope.

    Holiday in USA ends Wednesday. Then it’s back to rain-soaked Norn Iron.

  11. Then it’s back to rain-soaked Norn Iron.

    Apparently this weather is down till september… and then its into winter time… global warming my ar..

  12. Kloot

    I was just thinking that when I was home last week!
    I always tell people that I’m from Fermanagh so I was brought up damp"!

  13. Alieen,

    Only in Ireland can you get a tan in the morning and catch a cold in the evening… and thats just the summer 🙂

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