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Here we go – you’ve heard of the mad March hare, well, here’s my madness for the month..!

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13 thoughts on “A MARCH VLOG

  1. Good vlog DV, some stuff I’d like to take you up on, but I gotta run. Agree with you about Ruane though.

  2. Great topic and some good points on education (not for everyone). Social Promotion is a failure as an educational policy. By the way, you may be the only male on the Internet bragging about lasting 6 minutes instead of twenty.

  3. Come to think of it, Ian Paisley has no formal education and he did alright, yet there were many people who have gone to prison, not just in NI, but around the world, and who have benefited from free education as mature students and gone on to publish popular books and lead different lives after wards.

    So yes I agree with you that some of it is up to the individual, and some of it is up to a childs circumstances, and some of it is down to opportunity in life, but making things a little more equal to cancel out disadvantage is not wrong.

  4. I liked that coffee cup where can someone get one?

    oh and the Vlog was right on the money….

  5. Cait, surely the best way to cancel out disadvantage is to educate everyone to the best of their ability? Rather than educate everyone to a low standard, which is where we are being taken.

  6. Mark it depends on how you select everyone to educate them to the best of their ability.

  7. OK, so there is a spectrum of ability, from street sweepers to Steven Hawking, Albert Einstein, etc. The people at the low end can’t take much education — they prefer manual and mechanical endeavours. The people at the high end don’t need much education — they learn it by themselves. Most people are somewhere in between.

    I propose a system where we test everyone academically to see where they fit. There is no shame in a low score, it simply means you aren’t the academic type. For the low third we should have vocational schools, and for the high end, we should have intense music/math/science etc education. For everyone else, we should have a mixture of everything.

    Each of the 3 levels should have a range of classes to match the abilities and interests of the pupils. The test should be somewhere in the 11-13 range. You don’t want to test too early, or too late because you will have wasted valuable years of the right kind of education.

    OR, we could put everyone in the same school and teach a narrow range focussed on the below-average pupils. We could make the tests easy, but say they are hard to encourage self-esteem. We certainly won’t teach anything interesting, like real science, or difficult, like languages. Children who don’t behave, even if that is due to boredom because of the bland, un-challenging curriculum, will be asked to sign behaviour contracts, and eventually diagnosed by people who are not doctors as having diseases, and be required to take drugs to control the pseudo-diseases.

    Which do you prefer, Cait? The first is what we should have. The second is what they have in England and the US.

  8. The people at the low end can’t take much education — they prefer manual and mechanical endeavours’

    ‘The people at the high end don’t need much education — they learn it by themselves.’

    I ought to stop reading right there, since this is nothing but your own prejudice.

    ‘I propose a system where we test everyone academically to see where they fit. There is no shame in a low score, it simply means you aren’t the academic type. For the low third we should have vocational schools, and for the high end, we should have intense music/math/science etc education. For everyone else, we should have a mixture of everything.’

    Mark too many kids who failed the 11+ selection test went on to do better than those who passed for your proposal to be given any credit.

    Each of the 3 levels should have a range of classes to match the abilities and interests of the pupils. The test should be somewhere in the 11-13 range. You don’t want to test too early, or too late because you will have wasted valuable years of the right kind of education.’

    So you agree with Ruane? Decisions taken at 14? Glad she has a supporter in you anyway. lol.

    ‘OR, we could put everyone in the same school and teach a narrow range focussed on the below-average pupils. We could make the tests easy, but say they are hard to encourage self-esteem. We certainly won’t teach anything interesting, like real science, or difficult, like languages. Children who don’t behave, even if that is due to boredom because of the bland, un-challenging curriculum, will be asked to sign behaviour contracts, and eventually diagnosed by people who are not doctors as having diseases, and be required to take drugs to control the pseudo-diseases.’

    Are you sure about that? They have faith schools, and private schools and montesori schools, in England and the US too.

    ‘Which do you prefer, Cait? ‘

    I think the situation as is which is in free fall, could yet have merit although its not what Ruane intended. But grammar schools setting their own entrance exams would find a supporter in me. Although its not on your list of options.

  9. So you are saying that people with an IQ of 70 learn just as well as those with an IQ of 180? And you’re serious? And you think I’m prejudiced? Let’s stick with reality, shall we?

    "Mark too many kids who failed the 11+ selection test went on to do better than those who passed for your proposal to be given any credit."

    Indeed, which is why my proposal includes "Each of the 3 levels should have a range of classes to match the abilities and interests of the pupils."

    I said: "11-13 range", and you say Ruane says 14. 14 is not in the range 11 to 13. Sorry.

    "They have faith schools, and private schools and montesori schools, in England and the US too."

    Yes they do, and Labour want some of those to be shut down. I was talking about the state schools anyway.

    Nice try. Pity all your points were wrong.

  10. ‘I said: "11-13 range", and you say Ruane says 14. 14 is not in the range 11 to 13. Sorry.’

    lol So your theory hangs on 12 months difference? You’re kidding right?

    ‘Indeed, which is why my proposal includes "Each of the 3 levels should have a range of classes to match the abilities and interests of the pupils."

    Which would of course address the issue of inequality in education and all it’s complexities. hmmm….

    ‘Nice try. Pity all your points were wrong’

    lol. Don’t go applying for the education ministry Mark, no one will be able to tell the difference between you and Ruane. You aren’t a closet shinner are you?

  11. Well actually, yes it is an attempt to address the inequalities by trying to give each person the kind of education they are most suited to.

    Shinner? No. I believe in democracy.

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