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Here I go again the ugly American, the supporter of Zion, etc etc etc.

The Jews have had enough, and unlike President Barry they will not obfuscate to back away from their Red Line.

A new report that says Iran may need as little as a month to produce enough uranium for a nuclear bomb is further evidence for why Israel will take military action before that happens, an Israeli defense official said Friday.

“We have made it crystal clear – in all possible forums, that Israel will not stand by and watch Iran develop weaponry that will put us, the entire Middle East and eventually the world, under an Iranian umbrella of terror,” Danny Danon, Israel’s deputy defense minister told USA TODAY.

A report by evil American Scientists from the Institute for Science and International Security has stated that at Iran’s technical level today it would only take them 1.6 months to assemble a Bomb.

God Speed Israel, pass the popcorn and let the fireworks begin.

UPDATE:

Iran continues to enrich uranium...

Announces 34 new nuke sites...

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283 thoughts on “Ah Christmas might come early

  1. Phantom – specifcially what points from those recently posted are you disputing? From the most recent are asserted that:

    * George Bush had a close business relationship with Ken (“Kenny boy”) Lay, the criminal head of Enron.
    * The CEO of Enron resigned on August 14th, 2001.
    * On August 15th, 2001, Enron lobbyist Pat Shortridge met with then-White House Economic Adviser Robert McNally, and told him that Enron was headed for a financial meltdown
    * The Securities and Exchange Commission based in floors 12 and 13 of Building 7 was investigating Enron and other frauds
    * On 9/11, fires broke out in floors 12 and 13 on the side of the building not damaged by projectiles from WTCs 1 and 2
    * After the fires had burnt out, Building 7 collapsed at freefall acceleration into its own footprint

    Those are facts, in answer to Colm’s question.

  2. So, 9/11 was a controlled demolition, implemented in order to protect Enron?

    Why the dirty devils.

  3. Building 7 was a controlled demolition carried out to erase any evidence linking Enron to the POTUS – and it worked, quite clearly. There were many ops going on and the slate was being wiped clean, including a missing $2.3trillion of defence expenditure as announced by Rummy on 10th September 2001.

  4. Allan — Why spend so much time posting the same thing over and over? To what end? Best case scenario you convince the dozen or so people who read ATW that 9/11 was an inside job. So what would be so great about that?

  5. There was another major building in the area that was rumored to be near collapse. One Liberty Plaza, right across Church St, had been damaged by debris, and had been shaken by the immense collapses close by.

    It’s another building that I know very well. Many were afraid to re-enter that building when it reopened some weeks later.

    Imagine if it had fell. Our wee lads would have been even more hysterical.

    http://www.tenantwise.com/press/p10172001t.asp

    Lads, Church St is a north-south street in lower Manhattan.

  6. Church St is a north-south street in lower Manhattan

    Just might have had it’s aging foundations rattled …

    “[T]here was just an explosion [in the south tower]. It seemed like on television [when] they blow up these buildings. It seemed like it was going all the way around like a belt, all these explosions.”

    –Firefighter Richard Banaciski

    “I saw a flash flash flash [at] the lower level of the building. You know like when they demolish a building?”

    –Assistant Fire Commissioner Stephen Gregory

    “[I]t was [like a] professional demolition where they set the charges on certain floors and then you hear ‘Pop, pop, pop, pop, pop’.”

    –Paramedic Daniel Rivera

  7. That old Church never stood a chance ..

    Multiple Explosions
    The oral histories contain numerous testimonies with reports of more than one explosion. Paramedic Kevin Darnowski, for example, said: “I started walking back up towards Vesey Street. I heard three explosions, and then we heard like groaning and grinding, and tower two started to come down.”27

    Gregg Brady, an emergency medical technician, reported the same thing about the north tower, saying: “I heard 3 loud explosions. I look up and the north tower is coming down now.”28

    Somewhat more explosions were reported by firefighter Thomas Turilli, who said, referring to the south tower, that “it almost sounded like bombs going off, like boom, boom, boom, like seven or eight.”29

    Even more explosions were reported by Craig Carlsen, who said that while he and other firefighters were looking up at the towers, they “heard explosions coming from building two, the south tower. It seemed like it took forever, but there were about ten explosions. . . . We then realized the building started to come down.”30

    “Pops”
    As before, “pops” were reported by some witnesses. “As we are looking up at the [south tower],” said firefighter Joseph Meola, “it looked like the building was blowing out on all four sides. We actually heard the pops. Didn’t realize it was the falling–you know, you heard the pops of the building. You thought it was just blowing out.”31

    “Pops” were also reported by paramedic Daniel Rivera in the following exchange:

    Q. How did you know that it [the south tower] was coming down”

    A. That noise. It was noise.

    Q. What did you hear? What did you see?

    A. It was a frigging noise. At first I thought it was—do you ever see professional demolition where they set the charges on certain floors and then you hear ‘Pop, pop, pop, pop, pop’? That’s exactly what–because I thought it was that. When I heard that frigging noise, that’s when I saw the building coming down.32

  8. Testimonial Evidence

    Many firefighters and others reported explosions below the impact and fire floors. For example:

    •Genelle Guzman, the last survivor to be rescued from the WTC 1 rubble, reports that when she got down to the 13th floor some 20 minutes before the North Tower collapsed, she heard a “big explosion” and “[t]he wall I was facing just opened up, and it threw me on the other side.”
    •Firefighter Edward Cachi said: “As my officer and I were looking at the South Tower, it just gave. It actually gave at a lower floor, not the floor where the plane hit. . . . [I]t went in succession, boom, boom, boom, boom, and then the tower came down.”[6]
    •Firefighter Kenneth Rogers said: “[T]here was an explosion in the South Tower [WTC 2]. . . . Floor after floor after floor. One floor under another after another and when it hit about the fifth floor, I figured it was a bomb, because it looked like a synchronized deliberate kind of thing.”[7]
    •Stephen Evans, a New York-based correspondent for the BBC, said: “I was at the base of the second tower . . . that was hit. . . . There was an explosion. . . . The base of the building shook. . . . [T]hen there was a series of explosions.”[8]
    •Firefighter Louie Cacchioli reported that upon entering the WTC’s lobby, he saw elevator doors completely blown out. “I remember thinking,” he said, “how could this be happening so quickly if a plane hit way above?” When he reached the 24th floor, he encountered heavy dust and smoke, which he found puzzling in light of the fact that the plane had struck the building over 50 stories higher.[9]
    There were also reports of explosions in the basements themselves. For example:

    •Janitor William Rodriguez reported that he and 14 others in the North Tower heard and felt an explosion below the first sub-level office before the aircraft impact, he said, the floor beneath his feet vibrated and “everything started shaking.” Seconds later, he added, “I hear another explosion from way above. . . . Although I was unaware at the time, this was the airplane hitting the tower.” In any case, he said, co-worker Felipe David, who had been in front of a nearby freight elevator, came into the office with severe burns on his face and arms yelling, “explosion! explosion! explosion!”[10]
    •Rodriguez’s account was corroborated by José Sanchez, who was in the workshop on the fourth sub-level. Sanchez said that he and a co-worker heard a big blast that “sounded like a bomb,” after which “a huge ball of fire went through the freight elevator.”[11]
    •Engineer Mike Pecoraro, who was working in the North Tower’s sixth sub-basement, said that after an explosion he and a co-worker went up to the C level, where there was a small machine shop. “There was nothing there but rubble,” said Pecoraro. “We’re talking about a 50 ton hydraulic press – gone!” They then went to the parking garage, but found that it was also gone. Then on the B level, they found that a steel-and-concrete fire door, which weighed about 300 pounds, was wrinkled up “like a piece of aluminum foil.”[12]

  9. Allan — Why spend so much time posting the same thing over and over? To what end? Best case scenario you convince the dozen or so people who read ATW that 9/11 was an inside job. So what would be so great about that?

    I’ve persuaded many engineers up here that 9/11 was not as described. Not too much effort was needed – just show the demolition of building 7, the David Chandler narration, and the penny drops because they are engineers and understand these matters. They then tell their families and friends and pretty soon the ‘believers’ have nothing other than insults in their armoury, as is now the case.

    Here’s better footage of building 7’s destruction noting the testimonies of pre-explosions from Harri’s posts above:

  10. The NY garbage men are sometimes called sanitation engineers.

    But none of them fall for these Truther stories.

    In Aberdeen, they’d all have PhDs

  11. Aberdeen can fairly be described as the centre of British and European oil. There’s alot of clever, well qualified chaps up there.

  12. Phantom – specifically what points from those recently posted are you disputing? From the most recent are asserted that:

    * George Bush had a close business relationship with Ken (“Kenny boy”) Lay, the criminal head of Enron.
    * The CEO of Enron resigned on August 14th, 2001.
    * On August 15th, 2001, Enron lobbyist Pat Shortridge met with then-White House Economic Adviser Robert McNally, and told him that Enron was headed for a financial meltdown
    * The Securities and Exchange Commission based in floors 12 and 13 of Building 7 was investigating Enron and other frauds
    * On 9/11, fires broke out in floors 12 and 13 on the side of the building not damaged by projectiles from WTCs 1 and 2
    * After the fires had burnt out, Building 7 collapsed at freefall acceleration into its own footprint

    Those are facts, in answer to Colm’s question.

  13. Phantom, on October 30th, 2013 at 8:18 PM Said:
    There are exceptions.

    Make this one of those exceptions, and try to actually answer Allans question.

  14. Bush was a Texas good ole boy crony capitalist and he was absolutely tight with Ken Lay. He was tight with anyone who’d give him a campaign contribution.

    Enron was a house of cards and blatant rackateering, right up there with the worst of Wall Street.

    The company went bust, and the shareholders and bondholders took their 100% losses.

    Employees, who had done no wrong in very many cases, were ruined.

    Ken Lay died in jail, Fastow went to jail, and Skilling’s still in jail.

    Their crimes, such as manipulating California electricity prices, are well documentated, and no one got off easy that I can tell.

  15. And the POTUS had no involvement – because any incriminating evidence was destroyed in building 7.

  16. GW the shaved chimp could not mastermind a piss-up in a brewery

    Bush Caught in a Lie
    About the 9/11 WTC Attacks

    President Bush has stated on two occasions that he saw a plane hit World Trade Center 1:

    Occasion 1:
    President Bush Holds Town Hall Meeting
    [CNN, Aired December 4, 2001]
    QUESTION: One thing, Mr. President, is that you have no idea how much you’ve done for this country, and another thing is that how did you feel when you heard about the terrorist attack?

    BUSH: Well… (APPLAUSE)

    Thank you, Jordan (ph).

    Well, Jordan (ph), you’re not going to believe what state I was in when I heard about the terrorist attack. I was in Florida. And my chief of staff, Andy Card — actually I was in a classroom talking about a reading program that works. And I was sitting outside the classroom waiting to go in, and I saw an airplane hit the tower — the TV was obviously on, and I use to fly myself, and I said, “There’s one terrible pilot.” And I said, “It must have been a horrible accident.”

    But I was whisked off there — I didn’t have much time to think about it, and I was sitting in the classroom, and Andy Card, my chief who was sitting over here walked in and said, “A second plane has hit the tower. America’s under attack.”

    Occasion 2:
    President Holds Town Hall Forum on Economy in California
    [whitehouse.gov, January 5, 2002]

    “I was sitting there, and my Chief of Staff — well, first of all, when we walked into the classroom, I had seen this plane fly into the first building. There was a TV set on…” [whitehouse.gov]

    There is a problem with the above statements. There was no live video coverage of the first plane hitting the tower. There couldn’t be. Video of the first plane hitting the tower did not surface until AFTER the second plane had hit World Trade Center 2.

  17. Poor Dubya – he just can’t save himself from his stupidity. No wonder all evidence of his entanglements with Ken Lay and Enron had to be destroyed in building 7. Can you imagine him in a witness stand?

    Btw, that’s 273 comments. Is this a record for ATW?

  18. I don’t think so…. but it is the thread that will not die…. quick anyone have a stake?

    or as we colonials would say… for gods sake put a fork in it, it’s done, let it go, move on, ENOUGH ALREADY.

    Loony Arabs did it, not Americans, not Jews, not little grey men with big black eyes, night the bildaburgers, not the masons, not even my fellow Templar’s.

    It was Arabs inspired by Persians and they will pay. It really is just that simple Allan, let it go.

  19. Petr Tarasov, on October 31st, 2013 at 7:52 AM Said:
    Some mind-bending historical illusions there, Troll.

    And Illusions are exactly what they will remain.

  20. Truss-to-Column Connections
    Most variants of the truss-failure theory blame the detachment of the truss ends from the perimeter walls for the pancaking of floors, and eventual total collapse of the buildings. It has been asserted that only one or two bolts connected the truss ends to the perimeter walls. However, according to both of the official government reports, the truss ends rested on steel plates that were both welded and bolted to the top chords of the trusses and attached via bolted damping units to their lower bottom chords

    .

    Troll,

    No Clips I am afraid, as you will see from the schematic technical diagrams of the steel truss systems in the consctruction of the Twin towers

    http://911research.wtc7.net/wtc/arch/floors.html

  21. It was Arabs inspired by Persians and they will pay.

    So Iran is behind 9/11? They diverted the USAF to the west coast and Canada for huge exercises on 10th and 11th September leaving 4 aircraft to defend the entire north-east of the US? If they did that, just think how powerful they really are.

  22. You’re both equally wrong here.

    Iran was not involved in 9/11. No evidence of it, despite a wrong decision that came from the fundamentally broken US legal system

    Ah Christmas might come early

    There were large, genuine, outpourings of sympathy from the Iranian public, also.

  23. The beast has at least three heads. Pakistan is one, our dear ally Saudi Arabia is another.

    They are the Cerberus of world terror, and its funding.

  24. Troll, just like his masters in government want that war with Iran, blaming Iran for everything from 9/11 to the milk going off in your fridge is now a standard default judgment.

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