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Mr Ayers Speaks Again

Ayers to Alan Colmes: Obama Making ‘Colossal Mistake’ sending additional troops to Afghanistan
Mon Feb 23 2009 14:00:00 ET

In an exclusive interview airing tonight on Hannity at 9:00pm ET on FOX News Channel, Bill Ayers spoke with Alan Colmes on a wide range of issues including his past with the Weather Underground and President Obama.Ê

Ayers on President Obama sending 17,000 additional troops to Afghanistan:

“It’s a mistake. It’s a colossal mistake. And, you know, we’ve seen this happen before, Alan. We’ve seen a hopeful presidency, Lyndon Johnson’s presidency, burn up in the furnace of war.”

“I fear that this brilliant young man, this hopeful new administration, could easily burn their prospect of a great presidency in the war in Afghanistan or elsewhere.”

On setting bombs as part of the Weather Underground:

“I don’t regret anything I did it to oppose the war. It was — I did it to oppose the war. I don’t regret it.”

“I don’t look back on those things and regret them, but I’m willing to rethink them. And there are many things which I’m going to rethink.”

The List:

 

  • 18-June 22, 1969 – SDS National Convention held in Chicago, Illinois. Publication of “Weatherman” founding statement. Members seize control of SDS National Office.[1][2]
  • September 3, 1969 – Female members converge on South Hills High School in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, where they run through the school shouting anti-war slogans and distributing literature promoting the “National Action.” The term “Pittsburgh 26” refers to the 26 women arrested in connection with this incident.[2]
  • September 24, 1969 – A group of members confront Chicago Police during a demonstration supporting the “National Action,” and protesting the commencement of the Chicago Eight trial stemming from the 1968 Democratic National Convention.[4]
  • October 5, 1969 – The Haymarket Police Statue in Chicago is bombed; The Weathermen later claim credit for the bombing in their book, Prairie Fire.[4]
  • October 8-11, 1969 – The “Days of Rage” riots occur in Chicago, damaging a large amount of property. 287 Weatherman members are arrested, and some become fugitives when they fail to appear for trial in connection with their arrests.[2][4]
  • November-December, 1969 – A small number of Weatherman members join the first contingent of the Venceremos Brigade (VB) that departs for Cuba to harvest sugar cane.
  • December 6, 1969 – Bombing of several Chicago Police cars parked in a precinct parking lot at 3600 North Halsted Street, Chicago. The WUO claims responsibility in Prairie Fire, stating it is a protest of the fatal police shooting of Illinois Black Panther Party leaders Fred Hampton and Mark Clark on December 4, 1969.
  • December 27-30, 1969 – The Weathermen hold a “War Council” in Flint, Michigan, where they finalize their plans to change into an underground organization that will commit strategic acts of sabotage against the government. Thereafter they are called the “Weather Underground Organization” (WUO).[2][5]
  • February, 1970 – The WUO closes the SDS National Office in Chicago, concluding the major campus-based organization of the 1960s. The first contingent of the VB returns from Cuba and the second contingent departs. By mid-February the bulk of the leading WUO members go underground.
  • February 13, 1970 – Several police vehicles of the Berkeley, California, Police Department are bombed in the police parking lot; February 16, 1970: A bomb is detonated at the Golden Gate Park branch of the San Francisco Police Department, killing one officer and injuring a number of other policemen. No organization claims credit for either bombing. (See San Francisco Police Department Park Station bombing.) In late February, the house of Judge Murtagh, who presides over the Panther 21 trial, is bombed by a WUO cell in New York City.[2]
  • March, 1970 – Warrants are issued for several WUO members, who become federal fugitives when they fail to appear for trial in Chicago.
  • March 6, 1970 – 34 sticks of dynamite are discovered in the 13th Police District of Detroit, Michigan. During February and early March, 1970, members of the WUO, led by Bill Ayers, are reported to be in Detroit, for the purpose of bombing a police facility.[citation needed]
  • March 30, 1970 – Chicago Police discover a WUO “bomb factory” on Chicago’s north side. A subsequent discovery of a WUO “weapons cache” in a south side Chicago apartment several days later ends WUO activity in the city.
  • April 2, 1970 – A federal grand jury in Chicago returns a number of indictments charging WUO members with violation of federal anti-riot laws.[5] Also, a number of additional federal warrants charging “unlawful flight to avoid prosecution” are returned in Chicago based on the failure of WUO members to appear for trial in local cases. (The Anti-riot Law charges were later dropped in January, 1974.)
  • May 21, 1970 – The WUO releases its “Declaration of a State of War” communique[7][6] under Bernardine Dohrn‘s name.
  • June 10, 1970 – The New York City Police headquarters is bombed by Jane Alpert and accomplices. The Weathermen state this is in response to “police repression.”[7][6]
  • July 23, 1970 – A federal grand jury in Detroit, Michigan, returns indictments against thirteen WUO members and former WUO members charging violations of various explosives and firearms laws.[7][6] (These indictments were later dropped in October, 1973.)
  • October 10, 1970 – A Queens traffic-court building is bombed. WUO claims this is to express support for the New York prison riots. [NYT, 10/10/70, p. 12]
  • October 14, 1970 – The Harvard Center for International Affairs is bombed by The Proud Eagle Tribe of Weather (later renamed the Women’s Brigade of the Weather Underground).[9] WUO claims this is to protest the war in Vietnam. [NYT, 10/14/70, p. 30] The bombing was in reaction to Angela Davis’ arrest and was the first action undertaken by an all-women’s unit of WUO.[9][10]
  • December 16, 1970 – Fugitive WUO member Judith Alice Clark is arrested on the Days of Rage indictments by the FBI in New York.[9]
  • October 15, 1971 – The bombing of William Bundy‘s office in the MIT research center. [NYT, 10/16/71]
  • May 19, 1972 – Bombing of The Pentagon, “in retaliation for the U.S. bombing raid in Hanoi.” [NYT, 5/19/72][12]
  • May 18, 1973 – The bombing of the 103rd Police Precinct in New York. WUO states this is in response to the killing of 10-year-old black youth Clifford Glover by police.[13]
  • September 19, 1973 – A WUO member is arrested by the FBI in New York. Released on bond, this member again submerges into the underground.
  • September 28, 1973 – The ITT headquarters in New York and Rome, Italy are bombed. WUO states this is in response to ITT’s alleged role in the Chilean coup earlier that month. [NYT, 9/28/73]
  • June 17, 1974 – Gulf Oil‘s Pittsburgh headquarters is bombed. WUO states this is to protest the company’s actions in Angola, Vietnam, and elsewhere.
  • July 1974 – The WUO releases the book Prairie Fire, in which they indicate the need for a unified Communist Party. They encourage the creation of study groups to discuss their ideology, and continue to stress the need for violent acts. The book also admits WUO responsibility of several actions from previous years. The Prairie Fire Organizing Committee (PFOC) arises from the teachings in this book and is organized by many former WUO members.
  • January 29, 1975 – Bombing of the State Department; WUO states this is in response to escalation in Vietnam. (AP. “State Department Rattled by Blast,” The Daily Times-News, January 29, 1975, p.1)[15]
  • Spring 1975 – WUO publishes “Politics in Command,” which is it’s new political-military strategy. It furthers the line of building a legal, above-ground organization and begins to minimize the armed struggle role.[15]
  • March 1975 – The WUO releases its first edition of a new magazine entitled Osawatomie.[16]
  • June 16, 1975 – Weathermen bomb a Banco de Ponce (a Puerto Rican bank) in New York, WUO states this is in solidarity with striking Puerto Rican cement workers.[16][15]
  • July 11-13, 1975 – The Prairie Fire Organizing Committee (PFOC) holds its first national convention during which time they go through the formality of creating a new organization.[16]
  • September, 1975 – Bombing of the Kennecott Corporation; WUO states this is in retribution for Kennecott’s alleged involvement in the Chilean coup two years prior.[17][16]
  • 1976-1978 the Weather Underground slowly disbands, many members turning themselves in after taking advantage of President Jimmy Carter’s amnesty for draft dodgers.
  • February 1977 – The first issue of Prairie Fire Organizing Committee’s magazine, Breakthrough, is published.[18]
  • Spring 1977 – The John Brown Book Club compiles articles critical of the old WUO leadership and subsequent split in a pamphlet entitled: The Split of the Weather Underground Organization: Struggling against White and Male Supremacy.[18]
  • November 1977 – Five WUO members are arrested on conspiracy to bomb California State Senator, John Brigg’s offices. It is later revealed that the Revolutionary Committee and PFOC had been infiltrated, and the arrests were the results of the infiltration. From this point on, the Weather Underground Organization ceases to exist.[18]
  • July 1980 – Former WUO member, Cathy Wilkerson surfaces in New York City and is charged with possession of explosives arising from the 1970 townhouse explosion. She is sentenced to 3 years in prison.[19]
  • December 3, 1980 – Bernadine Dohrn and Bill Ayers turn themselves in. Charges against Ayers are dropped. Dohrn is placed on probation after it has been discovered that the FBI were planning on kidnapping her nephew, amongst other controversial schemes.[20]
  • October 20, 1981 – Brinks robbery in which WUO members Kathy Boudin, Sam Brown, Judy Clark and David Gilbert and the Black Liberation Army stole over $1 million from a Brinks armored car at the Nanuet Mall, near Nyack, New York on October 20, 1981. The robbers were stopped by police later that day and engaged them in a shootout, killing two police officers and one Brinks guard[20] as well as wounding several others.
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55 thoughts on “An Advisor/Mentor to The President

  1. It would almost be worth the laugh to have had the Republicans win the election to see how ridiculous you would be in victory, but we’ll have to settle for how ridiculous you are in defeat. You still think Ayers is a real story.

  2. The Fact that you don’t Mahons shows the shallowness of concern for justice and right and wrong.

    You not interested in the truth, you can’t handle the facts that the people you support are anti-american and really don’t wish this nation well.

  3. You not interested in the truth, you can’t handle the facts that the people you support are anti-american and really don’t wish this nation well.

    Maybe some people dont consider mass murder to be all that "American". Ofcourse that might be a hard philosophy to shift, considering that it has been a building block of the nation since day one. It also succeeds because enough fools buy into it, thinking that their nation brings only peace and liberty from the bomb bays of its B52s.

  4. I think the message has been distorted by the messenger, in this case Ayers.

    The heading really states the question: if this is the calibre of the people who advise the President, what kind of advice is he being given?

    We all remember the parable of the sheep returning to the fold, but we don’t care to examine what the sheep was doing whilst outside the family farm.

  5. What the hell! How is Ayers a mentor to the President?! Oh, never mind, I’ve heard it all before. It is a good laugh though.

  6. Troll – I care for the truth which is why I point out your typical lie in asserting that Ayers is an advisor to the President.

    Yesterday you lied (adding attempted deception to error) in claiming that there were folks on ATW who argued that all of the detainees in Gitmo were factually innocent.

    You make outrageous unsupported claims, and when confronted with the truth run away to seek solace in other outrageaous claims.

  7. no Mahons there have been many statements on this site by commenters that the Gitmo people were just rounded up for no reason

    and Ayers was a political mentor and friend of the president the whole begining of his carreer just as Frank Marshall Davis was his sponsor and mentor in Hawaii. not to add Rev Wright who he associated with for 20 years

    if the most influential people and the people you choose as friends are anti-american, radical and marxist

    you have no question that Obama shared any of these peoples views?

    I know he was the young Abe Lincoln trying to get them to see the error of their ways

  8. Troll – you find me the comment that said they all were innocents who were wrongfully rounded up. I can wait. You are overplaying your hand.

    Obama’s relationship with Ayers was fully investigated during the campaign as you know and it was found to be nothing of substance.

    Without a doubt his relationship with Wright was more troubling, as he attended those services for such a long time and Wright is a kook’s kook.

  9. "fully investigated during the campaign"
    by a fawning media perhaps.

    But America made it’s judgement known.

  10. I.B. That’s my point. The issue wasn’t fully vetted by the major networks, the Wright case somewhat.

  11. Only Fox and I think ABC covered Wright properly in the beginning. The others had to be dragged into it.

    And as of the second day, you started hearing " you’re dwelling too much on this thing"!

  12. Charles and Phantom:

    Fair enough, I accept that most media didn’t give the non-story much airtime/press coverage. And why should they have?

    It was never going to fly. Imagine you’re a young up-and- coming senator. Isn’t an ex-Weatherman the very last person you’d ever wish your name to be associated with? Wright was the second-last but at least he didn’t bomb govt buildings—not that I know of anyhow.

  13. The long time association with a racist, anti American creep pastor was a story. God forbid a Republican politician had a 20 year association with a KKK preacher, a reverse image of Wright. The NY Times would have it on the front page dozens and dozens of times. It would be a manna from heaven issue for them.

  14. The Ayers allegations, thin as they were, was fully investigated by the media and the disappointment of certain conservatives that there wasn’t anything of substance there colors their view. Think it doesn’t? Neither Charles or Phantom (two of ATW’s thinking American conservative representatives) seem to have an issue with the specious claim that Ayers is currently a presidential advisor.

  15. Mahons, I don’t think he’s a current advisor, it’s just that Obama was raised in that political milieu. Obama is a turtle on a fencepost. Somebody got him there.

  16. Phantom, a Texanism?

    Mahons, no, but it seems that his association with both men is glossed over by so many.

  17. Charles -glossed over? You are kidding. Ok you are not kidding, but wrong.

    The Ayers claims died on the vine as there was nothing there. The Wright controversy, which had substance, didn’t, but he came through with an exceptionally belated condemnation of Wright’s statements. His prior inactivity on Wright and his belated condemnation did him no credit.

  18. I don’t agree that there was nothing there with Ayers.

    Ayers and more especially his wife, were famous terrorists – any educated person, especially someone who knows any politics or modern history would have known who they were, and how despicable they were and are.

    Any decent person would have no connection with them – and the fact that there are Republicans or others who sit on boards with Ayers means that those people are idiots, immoral or completely clueless.

    Ayers is not a respectable member of society and no one should want a political connection with him. And Obama had a connection with him.

    But yes, its way past time to let this thing go. The issue is not important politically and there are far more important things to deal with.

    Agree completely with the Wright analysis.

  19. What about George Bush’s relationship with the House of Saud? That was a million times worse; i have never heard of a conservative attacking him on that.

  20. The House of Saud did not blow up the Pentagon or try to kill policemen in the US.

    They are bad, Ayers is worse. Only incompetence and lack of means kept his group from killing far more than they did.

  21. He should have taken a leaf out McCain’s book and hung around with law abiding figures like Ollie North and Gordon Liddy.

  22. Two more people who did not bomb the Pentagon or try to kill cops like Ayers’ friends did.

  23. What I find interesting is Ayers comments on the Afgan War, and his allusion to LBJ and Viet Nam. I wonder how many on the left who supported O think the same.

    Phantom, you’re right, I don’t how people can sit at the same table as Ayers. Daddy’s money helps I guess.

  24. ‘They are bad, Ayers is worse.’

    What?! Bill Ayers is worse then the House of Saud? Do you have any idea of the billions they give to appease the Islamists and Al Qaeda?! Let alone, the horror they inflict on their own people. And Bush had a business relationship with them!

    In all fairness Phantom, that is absolutely ridiculous!

  25. Oliver North and G Gordan Liddy are heroes and patriots

    Irish Barry did you ever look up who Frank Marshall Davis is?

    Mahons you put up a link to ANY interview with Obama that pressed him hard on the fact of his relationship with these 3 men

  26. Troll:

    "Irish Barry did you ever look up who Frank Marshall Davis is?"

    Yes I did. Sounds like an interesting lad. Creative too. I like that.

  27. Obama had a relationship with Ollie North, G Gordan Libby and Frank Davis? Now I will have to reconsider my vote.

  28. "Two more people who did not bomb the Pentagon or try to kill cops like Ayers’ friends did."

    IIRC Liddy gave out tips on his radio show about how to shoot federal agents to make sure you killed them. So far as I am aware, neither man it is true has bombed Washington. although of course McCain’s Chilean friends did.

  29. Jimmy

    Liddy has a few screws loose, and he did say that.

    But Ayers acted on his bad intent.

  30. there is no doubt liddy is nuts but I would take his freindship over ayers, davis and wrights

  31. Why become friends with any of them? It isn’t and either/or situation.

    Is there a major politician who hasn’t had at least one unsavory association?

  32. G Gordon Liddy – a hero and patriot?

    I didn’t get the memo about changing the meanings of those two words. G Gordon Liddy is a convicted felon who gave people advice on how to shoot at federal agents. Hero? Patriot?

  33. Its funny though

    Though 85 years old, he is still sharp as a tack.

    He’s done some good things. If he wasn’t so clumsy in criticizing current presidents or in using terms like apartheid where they only confuse and inflame the issue, he could be the kind of man who would be a good ex President

  34. Gordon Liddy? I recall reading a novel of his once. It concerned a fighter pilot flying a prop plane who managed to outmanoeuvre jet fighters.

    I rather enjoyed it to be honest. But I was young and impressionable then.

  35. I read most of Will, his autobiography.

    I get the impression that he was being very honest, including some details of what went on in prison. He held an open flame to his own flesh in front of the others to let them know he was not one to be messed with, that he could withstand anything.

  36. "Amazon.com Review
    G. Gordon Liddy’s autobiography is as spookily fascinating now as it was in 1980, especially the memorably unvarnished depiction of his early years. Listening with admiration to Adolf Hitler on the radio, seeking to free himself from "disabling emotionalism" by slaughtering chickens, young Gordon must have made quite an impression on the neighbors."

    You can see why he’d be a big ATW favourite.

  37. Liddy in the days of Nixon was hero and a patriot, no matter what he has become

    You mean when he was breaking into places and running dirty tricks for Tricky Dicky? That makes him a hero? Gosh – you must have loads of heroes in America.

  38. Troll – yes, Liddy was quite the hero during the Nixon years. Starting fires, stealing medical records, and all the rest. We should all be grateful for patriots such as Liddy.

  39. If your politics are to the Right then to the likes of Troll, you can behave however you like and still be a ‘hero and patriot’.

  40. Liddy when the watergate investigation was growing volunteered to have the evedence point all to him as a rogue agent, and then he said he would stand on a corner and let them assasinate him to end the whole affair. To protect the president.

    That is a patriot

  41. to demonstrate his willingness to do what must be done at a party he stuck his arm over the fame of a candle until it burned a huge hole in his hand,

    When asked by alderman what the trick was his reply was "no trick, It’s just not minding" duty is everything

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