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Medway.

Cartegena de las Indias,

Yorktown,

Castlebar,

Saratoga

Basra and Baghdad

The last days of the presence of British forces in Iraq are remembered today, and it is also fitting that we remember other British defeats, because Basra, Southern Iraq and the whole conflict were just that, defeats on a tremendous scale for the British forces. I do not blame the squaddies, the sailors, the fighter and bomber crews who fought so hard and gave so much; I lay the entire fiasco at the feet of the senior officers, the Generals, the multiple Admirals; the senior MOD personnel who sent our people into battle hamstrung with ridiculous Rules of Engagement, lousy equipment, the politicians who sent the Forces there in the first place.

As has been catalogued at length by EU Referendum, we have been betrayed by British politicians, British so-called Civil Servants, and most of all by British Arms manufacturers.

Yes, we won the war; given the opposition, we couldn’t lose it; but we lost the peace, scuttling out of Basra Airport with our tails beneath our arses after an ignominious retreat from Basra proper, as the US Army had to come in and rescue our troops from utter humiliation.

Another magnificent Defeat, that is all we needed!

 

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7 thoughts on “And the list is enlarged…..

  1. >>I lay the entire fiasco at the feet of the senior officers, the Generals, the multiple Admirals; the senior MOD personnel who sent our people into battle hamstrung with ridiculous Rules of Engagement, lousy equipment, the politicians who sent the Forces there in the first place.<<

    .. and the people like you – so vocal on this site just a few years ago, now as silent as pro-Nazis in Berlin in 1945 – who supported that decision.

  2. It certainly seems that way, – but at least we showed our hearts are in the right place!

    Meanwhile and a little further west, it is some sixty days since the ‘no fly zone’ was promoted as a necesssary and worthwhile excercise, – with the promse that it would all be over in days, rather than weeks or months.

    Meanwhile it seems all that has been achieved is a rather messy stalemate, and the Generals calling for what amounts to a reprise of the Iraq fiasco, something they promised would never happen.

    Each day it goes on looks like another ‘winner’ for Ghadaffi, he is making fools out of NATO, – but isn’t that what happens when you try to intimidate and scare people into doing as they are told, rather than because they respect you and your good intentions?

  3. My comment above was in response to Mike’s post, and not to Noel’s infantile comment.

  4. I’m not sure we were “defeated in Basra”. It seems the government ordered the Army to occupy Basra Airport only until enough time had passed for politicians to save face and declare the job done.

    Lessons will be learned, of course, because there’s nothing government likes better than to learn lessons after yet another fiasco. The chief lesson is that the MOD is still as lethal to our forces as any enemy.

  5. Pete,

    Surely a case of using a sledge hammer to crack a nut – and the nut survives!

    Eddie, – I disagree, the enemy are not us, – they are our politicians.

  6. Noel’s comment – apart from the unnecessary ‘pro-nazi’ bit – is not unreasonable. I was favourable to the invasion of Iraq at the, time but that was based on the information at the time. Now that we know that the invasion was to bolster the oil and military corporations which control most of Washington DC, the entire project is seen as one gigantic criminal fraud.

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