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We live in a mad world;

Five prison officers have been suspended as police investigate claims a Woolwich murder suspect was injured while being restrained. Michael Adebolajo reportedly lost teeth in an incident at London’s Belmarsh Prison on Wednesday. The Prison Officers Association denied any wrongdoing by officers saying a prisoner was restrained using approved techniques. The suspect is accused of killing Fusilier Lee Rigby in May.

Here’s an earlier pic of the “suspect” Michael with all his teeth.

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And a bloody knife.

Fusilier Lee Rigby’s decapitated body lies out of shot.

Just TWO teeth knocked out????

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47 thoughts on “DECORATE THEM…NOT SUSPEND THEM

  1. Screws have a duty of care to their prisoners while in custody which applies even to psychpaths like Michael Adebolajo. If this duty has been breached then people should be held accountable.

  2. It should not have been allowed to happen but I can’t bring myself to care that it has.

  3. It may be that one or more of those prison officers (or “screws” as my impartial ATW collegue describes them) are ex military, or have family in the military.

    If they did it deliberately, they shouldn’t have. But the fact that many people may say ” Serves him right”
    illustrates the fact that there is justice according to the Establishment and justice according to the people.

  4. If the are ex military or have family in the military still doesn’t give them the right to breach their duty of care. They are public servants paid to do a professional job.

    If it was five cons who attacked him who ‘are ex military, or have family in the military’ what would ATW be saying then?

  5. They are merely suspended pending an investigation which seems like a proper protocol in such a situation. Hopefully they will be exonerated and resume their positions and difficult jobs.

    Hopefully Adebolago learns to like applesauce.

  6. ” If the are ex military or have family in the military still doesn’t give them the right to breach their duty of care. They are public servants paid to do a professional job. ”

    S’funny.
    I thought I just said that here…

    ” It may be that one or more of those prison officers (or “screws” as my impartial ATW collegue describes them) are ex military, or have family in the military.

    If they did it deliberately, they shouldn’t have.”

  7. If found guilty of wrongdoing, which is inconceivable, the guards should be fined one cent each.

    With the fine suspended in light of a higher law than any written in books.

  8. I thought I just said that here…

    You thought wrong.

    Disagree Phantom as that’s capitulation to the law of the lynch mob.

  9. There is a higher law that that of jurists and legislators.

    I wish the guards well.

  10. There is a higher law that that of jurists and legislators

    Good luck with that one.

    I thought I just said that here…

    Apart from being from the military doesn’t give them the right to breach their duty of care. They are public servants paid to do a professional job.?

    As said previously, you thought wrong.

  11. Agit8ed, on July 20th, 2013 at 2:48 PM Said:

    It may be that one or more of those prison officers (or “screws” as my impartial ATW collegue describes them) are ex military, or have family in the military.

    If they did it deliberately, they shouldn’t have.
    But the fact that many people may say ” Serves him right”
    illustrates the fact that there is justice according to the Establishment and justice according to the people.

    Poor Pauly.
    But I don’t know enough Spanish to translate it.

  12. You missed the part about them being public servants paid by public money to do a professional job.

    Still, that military comment is probably one of your ‘explanations’ (not justifications mind you) of why such things happen that you were speaking of last night.

    Illustrates the fact that there is justice according to the Establishment and justice according to the people.

    Yeah, it’s called a lynch mob. I’ll ask the question again:

    If five cons had assaulted Adebolajo what would your comments be?

  13. If five cons had assailted Aboojooboo, their sentances should have been halved.

    Why is this so hard for you?

  14. I didn’t miss that, you Spanish turkey.
    That “they shouldn’t have done it” is because they are public servants (not “screws”) paid by public money to do a professional job.

  15. Shame they didn’t give him a good kicking whilst they were at it. My 2p id that he kicked off and they properly restrained him. Accident. .mores the pity.

  16. Good so I assume that they should be prosecuted if the allegations are true and, if fiund guilty, the full weight of the law should be briught down on them?

    Second question:

    If five cons had assaulted Adebolajo what would your comments be?

    If five cons had assailted Aboojooboo, their sentances should have been halved.

  17. Ooops, my Kingdom for an edit button.

    If five cons had assailted Aboojooboo, their sentances should have been halved.

    You seriously believe that Phantom or are you just being mischevious?

  18. Dogis
    Your comments are becoming fewer and fewer.
    Is your life punctuated by detainments at Her Majesty’s displeasure?

  19. I misspoke.

    They should be freed.

    There is a higher justice my friend. Its no joke.

  20. ” Good so I assume that they should be prosecuted if the allegations are true and, if fiund guilty, the full weight of the law should be briught down on them?”

    Who is that addressed to?

  21. ” Ooops, my Kingdom for an edit button.”

    Not drinking quite so much is also effective
    😉

  22. I misspoke.
    They should be freed

    Even if they had been five child killers & or rapists?

    “Good so I assume that they should be prosecuted if the allegations are true and, if fiund guilty, the full weight of the law should be briught down on them?”
    Who is that addressed to?

    To you.

    Not drinking quite so much is also effective

    Are you Irish-Chinese?

    Perhaps time to take your own advice?

  23. “Good so I assume that they should be prosecuted if the allegations are true and, if fiund guilty, the full weight of the law should be briught down on them?”
    Who is that addressed to?
    To you.

  24. Phantom wants to throw out the rule book and allow prisoners to be lynched.. but we must shut up about the injustice of the Trayvon Martin case. Hmmmm…

  25. ” “Good so I assume that they should be prosecuted if the allegations are true and, if fiund guilty, the full weight of the law should be briught down on them?”

    Well it’s no use asking me is it?

  26. Well it’s no use asking me is it?

    I’m asking your opinion. Hope that’s direct enough for you.

  27. //we must shut up about the injustice of the Trayvon Martin case//

    Petr, how can we complain about an injustice in the Trayvon Martin case when we haven’t complained about injustices in Tibet cases? 🙂

  28. ” I’m asking your opinion. Hope that’s direct enough for you.”

    It’s direct enough but since you seem to doubt my opinion on most things anyway, I shall stay in my cupboard with my fingers in my ears singing,
    La la la la la la la!

    So there.

  29. Phantom

    I misspoke.
    They should be freed.
    There is a higher justice my friend. Its no joke.

    For not one moment do I believe you mean that.

  30. It’s direct enough but since you seem to doubt my opinion on most things anyway, I shall stay in my cupboard with my fingers in my ears singing,
    La la la la la la la!
    So there

    Thanks for that, no more answers are required.

  31. Some absolutely awful comments here from people who supposedly believe in the proper dispensation of justice. Whilst we all know that Adebolajo is guilty of the murder of Fusilier Lee Rigby, as Paul said, while Adebolajo is in custody, his custodians, for want of a better word, have a duty of care to their prisoner. If this has been breached, then, no matter what the verdict, HM prison officers have broken the law.

    BTW – Phantom – your ‘humorous’ spelling of Adebolajo as Aboojooboo is childish, and could be construed as racist.

    Agit8ed – your behavior, i.e.

    It’s direct enough but since you seem to doubt my opinion on most things anyway, I shall stay in my cupboard with my fingers in my ears singing,
    La la la la la la la!
    So there

    is unbelievably childish. If you can’t answer a question without compromising your own supposed beliefs, just say so. Don’t make a dick out of yourself by acting like a child.

  32. Seimi,

    Agit8ed – your behavior, i.e.
    …………….

    is unbelievably childish. If you can’t answer a question without compromising your own supposed beliefs, just say so. Don’t make a dick out of yourself by acting like a child.

    Seimi,

    I think I have shown over time that I actually think about things quite deeply and take on board other people’s opinions on various issues and try to give reasoned answers. Especially if I think the person asking the questions really wants to understand my opinion.

    If I get the impression they don’t and I then decide to have a “sitting in the cupboard with my fingers in my ears saying La la la la laaa!” moment, I will.

    Yes it might seem childish, especially coming from a 67 year old but so what? At 67 I should worry about looking childish?!

  33. Perhaps, for someone who claims to ‘actually think about things quite deeply and take on board other people’s opinions on various issues and try to give reasoned answers,’ you should consider answering the question, especially if you think ‘ the person asking the questions really wants to understand my opinion.’

    There seems to be nothing wrong with Paul’s question, ‘I assume that they should be prosecuted if the allegations are true and, if fiund guilty, the full weight of the law should be briught down on them?”

    So why wouldn’t you answer it, instead opting for the childish ‘sitting in the cupboard with my fingers in my ears saying La la la la laaa!’ response?

  34. Maybe because I was winding down after a long and fruitless discussion on “made in the image of God” here..

    THE FIRST POST RACIAL PRESIDENT RACE HUSTLES A BIT MORE


    After discussing racism, white supremacy etc earlier, I felt we were going nowhere.
    So I decided to call a halt.
    I suppose I could have gone from a theological discussion to telling a dirty joke on another thread, but I decided to be childish instead.
    What’s it to ya?

  35. Emotionally I side with anyone who hurts that piece of shit- but we can’t have a system where prison officers or other prisoners get to dispense whatever kind of extra judicial punishment they see fit. We wouldn’t have a justice system if that happened.

    I hope that this isn’t what has happened in this case.

  36. What’s it to ya?

    Because I’d also be interested in your response to Paul’s question. Should they be prosecuted if the allegations are true and, if found guilty, should the full weight of the law be brought down on them?

  37. “Because I’d also be interested in your response to Paul’s question. Should they be prosecuted if the allegations are true and, if found guilty, should the full weight of the law be brought down on them?”

    Well I suppose that if I said
    “Yes absolutely!”
    that would be consistent with my views about obeying the laws of the land.

    If I said
    “If they did bust his teeth against a window it was wrong but understandable”
    I could be accused of being inconsistent, even hypocritical..”

    Or I could just not answer.

  38. Absolutely correct Ross.

    I suppose I could have gone from a theological discussion to telling a dirty joke on another thread

    Do I detect a tone of sarcastic petulance?

  39. Then what other purpose does reference of a theological discussion to telling a dirty joke on another thread serve?

  40. That ain’t petulance Paul.
    That’s recognising that the discussion is going nowhere and I chose to end it by reverting to a tactic I learnt from kids in a special school. You reacted by going onto another thread to tell a dirty joke.

    Water under the bridge.

  41. You reacted by going onto another thread to tell a dirty joke.

    Except of course I didn’t:

    I’m asking your opinion. Hope that’s direct enough for you.
    It’s direct enough but since you seem to doubt my opinion on most things anyway, I shall stay in my cupboard with my fingers in my ears singing,
    La la la la la la la!
    So there.

    The discussion was brought to a close by your infantile refusal to answer a question on what, in your opinion, should be done to the five who allegedly assaulted Adebolajo if they are investigated and found guilty.

  42. Oh dear!
    This isn’t going to turn into one of your “historical things” is it?

    Water under the bridge Paul.
    Think what you like.
    Say what you like.
    On this particular subject I shall just stick my fingers in my ears and say,
    La -l..!

  43. Oh dear!
    This isn’t going to turn into one of your “historical things” is it?

    Eh?

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