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  1. I have enormous sympathy from business owners and employees harmed by lockdowns

    Lockdowns which are all caused by the anti mask people.

  2. Lockdowns which are all caused by the anti mask people.

    No – corrupt politicians ignorant of science and using concocted figures generated by Gates-financed ‘advisors’ ordered the lockdowns which are the incarceration of healthy people in their own homes. Here is The Scientist:

    “Fauci Doesn’t Know Anything About Anything” Kary Mullis, Nobel Prize Winner & Creator of PCR Test

    Kary Mullis – Fauci is a liar and incompetent

    Phantom – Fauci’s playing a blinder

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-9046363/DR-TOM-JEFFERSON-fear-mania-mass-Covid-testing-hugely-expensive-blunder.html

    It is the results from these PCR tests that supposedly tell the authorities how far and how fast Covid-19 is spreading, what sort of danger the virus poses at any one time and how many limits should be placed on our everyday lives to keep it under control.

    PCR swabs are key to schemes such as Test and Trace and to imposing tiers of restriction. They are the foundation of our long-hoped-for recovery. Yet our research has established that these PCR tests are routinely inaccurate. And, in particular, they are telling people they have Covid-19 when they do not.

    The doctor appears to be a good man, yet hopelessly naive. This same ‘blunder’ is happening at the same time in every country of the western world and is being imposed on populations by the same class of corrupted politicos and ‘scientists’. Every country has its Fauci and every country has its Johnson (yes Americans – pun intended)

    https://www.thelibertybeacon.com/coronavirus-scandal-breaking-in-merkels-germany-over-drosten-pcr-test/

  3. Lockdowns which are all caused by the anti mask people.

    a truly sad remark. Blame your fellow citizen… that’s good Phantom.

    The lives that are being lost due to the politics of this pandemic far out weigh the deaths caused by the disease.

    The damage isn’t being discussed we have elections to win. The middleclass the small business owner and everyone that works for them or supplies them and those that work for them as the ripple goes on and on are devastated financially. The OD rate has risen by half, suicide is up over 100%, violent crime has risen over 200% across the entire country and there is no end in sight.

    While you panic and blame your neighbor Phantom because there’s a new virus you ignore the devastation these bullshit policies have wrought that will have severe consequences for years to millions of lives more than the virus will have effected.

  4. I’m not ignoring anything

    The anti mask people are responsible for all the net avoidable deaths, the physical pain and injuries, the educational harm to children, the lost jobs, all that in all the countries

    This isn’t disputable

    Compare what’s going on here with what’s going on in Asia

    All the anti maskers, all those who have been anti mask whingers have brought us to this point. This is one thing we can all agree on.

    We should as a society try to mitigate the damage caused by the virus and by the whingers.

  5. Phantom – as previously shown for the UK and Italy, the average age of those whose deaths are attributed to Covid is greater than the average life-expectancy. Sure, the death of a 103-year-old woman is a tragedy when she had her life in front of her, but people have to die sometime. You appear to be saying that death must be abolished and that everybody should wear masks to end death.

  6. Phantom – shall YOU feel safe when YOU get the vaccine?

    Is it true only 6% of those listed as coronavirus deaths in the U.S. actually died from the virus?

    The CDC did not in fact update its COVID-19 data to reflect that only 6% of then recorded COVID-19 deaths were due to COVID. The section of the CDC report relied upon for this claim states “Table 3 shows the types of health conditions and contributing causes mentioned in conjunction with deaths involving coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19). For 6% of the deaths, COVID-19 was the only cause mentioned. For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID-19, on average, there were 2.6 additional conditions or causes per death.”

    This statement does not mean that only 6% of reported COVID-19 deaths “actually died” from COVID-19. It means that in most cases people who died had other health complications, like heart disease, obesity, or contributing causes such as old age, that exacerbated the effects of COVID-19 to cause these deaths. Having an underlying health condition when a person dies from COVID-19 does not mean that COVID-19 is not a cause of death. This is very similar to what we see with deaths caused by seasonal flu.

    Seasonal flu – correct.

    Even the ‘fact-checkers’ give the hoax away

  7. I compare the current state of affairs of mask shirking US/UK with mask wearing Japan/Korea/Taiwan.

    Comparisons that the ATW Mask Whingers have never once wanted to make.

  8. and thought HIV didn’t cause AIDs.

    Yes – and he was probably correct. A huge pharmaceutical sector has been built on HIV/AIDS causing profitable death as a business-model

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4172096/

    “The HIV/AIDS hypothesis is one hell of a mistake”, wrote Kary Mullis in 1996 [(1), p. 14]. Mullis – Nobel Laureate in Chemistry, 1993 – and other distinguished scientists have claimed the HIV-causes-AIDS hypothesis is false, unproductive, and unethical. They have done so since 1984, when the hypothesis was proposed. Thirty years after countless studies, resources, and attempts to cure have been poured into the HIV-AIDS hypothesis, it may be fruitful to ask: What happened to those views and voices that once disagreed? Have the past three decades, with their scientific, technological, and public health developments, been sufficient to convince critics of the hypothesis’ value? Have these advances been able to silence the questioning?

    This article’s space limitations do not allow an expanded treatment of each problem-area, but readers can find further details within the works cited. For instance, in Rebecca Culshaw’s book – Science Sold Out: Does HIV Really Cause AIDS (32) – readers will find 13 “failed predictions” regarding the spread of HIV and AIDS, including the prediction that HIV infection would spread randomly among populations (i.e., outside specific risk groups). Culshaw also tells her personal story of having written a master’s thesis, received a Ph.D. based on her work with “mathematical models of the immunological aspects of HIV infection,” and eventually concluding “there is good evidence that the entire basis for this theory is wrong” [(32), p.7].

    Noting that ‘this article has been retracted……’ one sees

    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4326730/

    ……several complaints from public health professionals related to the article “Questioning the HIV-AIDS hypothesis: 30 years of dissent,” which questions the link between HIV and AIDS. Acknowledging the gravity of these concerns, and the implications that the weakening of the HIV-AIDS link has on public health in general, an internal investigation was conducted.

    the “implications” being inter alia the adverse effects on pharmaceutical profits

  9. From my own observations mask wearing has become much more prevalent in the UK. Not 100% but in Stores and on public transport I would say it has reached well over 90%

  10. it is disputable Phantom there aqre a ton of studies and reports that have been suppressed that masks don’t work and lockdowns destroy more than help.

    Millions of peoples lives have been destroyed and not one life has been saved prove that any have, you can’t just as I can’t prove that millions would have died without them.

    It comes down to trust and you may trust these clowns to be honest with you but don’t assign that trust to any of your fellow citizens. You may find it’s in shorter supply than you think.

  11. Phantom, on December 13th, 2020 at 7:52 PM Said:

    I will follow the CDC guidanve

    Good answer, and I support you

  12. Once everyone that can have the vaccine has had it, then yes we should happily walk around without masks. If we end up infecting those who stupidly rejected the vaccines, diddums !

  13. yes mandatory vaccination for a disease with a less than 5% kill rate…. shoot all who refuse.

    It’s for Science and the Greater Good.

  14. Who said anything about mandatory vaccination. Absolutely people should be free not to take it without penalty. It’s their risk.

  15. Colm – many and possibly most people have already had Covid and didn’t know it. Why would these people need a vaccine?

    Patrick – it’s less than 0.5% fatality and concentrated at the over-80s end of the scale. Just correcting your typo.

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