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At last, at long last, Fergie’s had enough of Manchester. After 27 years at Old Trafford I’ve had enough of him, frankly. Off he goes to his retirement with my very best wishes, as long as it’s permanent.

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Everton’s David Moyes is the red hot favourite to be appointed his successor, which I think is marvelous because I don’t rate him at all.

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  1. First Thatcher dies and then Alex Ferguson resigns.

    Somewhere there’s a Scouser standing with a lamp and only one wish left.

  2. He is clever, dedicated and a born leader.

    If any further indication of the ugliness of politics were needed, the fact that men with such obvious organisational and leadership skills choose to ignore it and go into football would be it.

  3. Paul- that’s very funny.

    Alex Ferguson wasn’t necessarily the most likeable man but the scale of his achievements in the game are staggering. Not just at United either- when he was in Scotland he left the Old Firm looking distinctly second rate.

  4. Noel- I’m not sure whether great leaders are well suited for politics.

    When the Duke of Wellington was asked why he had not been a hugely successful PM despite being a great general, he said something like “When I gave them their orders they insisted on having a discussion about it”.

  5. Isn’t this the ultimate ” big revenue ” team, with all the advantages that come with that?

    Shouldn’t the coaching results be seen in that context?

    For my money, the best coaches might be the small market guys with less money to play with, who deliver very competitive teams anyway.

    In US baseball, I say that Joe Madden of Tampa Bay is the best manager. His team has a payroll that is 1/3 of that of the NY Yankees at any given time, and his team is very competitive every year.

    With an unlimited payroll, anyone can win a bunch of games.

  6. Phantom- money does matter a lot in football but Alex Ferguson won a fair number of trophies in Scotland with Aberdeen- who had a fraction of the revenue that Rangers & Celtic had.

    Also up until the start of the 21st century Manchester United’s spending much higher than the league average.

  7. The last sentence of my previous comment is missing an important word:

    Also up until the start of the 21st century Manchester United’s spending wasn’t much higher than the league average.

  8. In 2013 Man Utd have the 3rd highest premier league wage bill (with it being £40M lower than the highest, and £125M more than the lowest) while over the last five seasons they have nett spent the 7th most of all teams in the transfer market (being £330M below the highest and about £95M above the lowest). So it isn’t exactly like they bought the league.

    Most of Man Utd’s revenue goes to financing the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

  9. Ross, over the last 5 years Man Utd have spent only £1.5M more than the league average in transfer spending. So even after the start of the 21st century Man Utd’s spending wasn’t much higher than league average.

  10. I don’t care for football or ‘fitba’ as Sir Alex might call it, but he was a great success as a manager, a real leader, ruthless when necessary and sympathetic if it achieved his goals.
    I wish the man well. He deserves it.

  11. For my money, the best coaches might be the small market guys with less money to play with, who deliver very competitive teams anyway.

    Step forward, David Moyes. The guy, despite having severely limited funds, has managed to keep Everton in the top half of the table for 10 years.

    It’ll be interesting to see what a guy who has been used to watching the pennies does, when he’s suddenly given the National Deficit of a small country to play with…

  12. Seamus- I was thinking more in terms of salaries than transfer spending.

    There is a strong correlation between salaries and success in football but not much between transfers spending and success. If there were, Tottenham, Newcastle and Rafa-era Liverpool would have won a shedload of trophies.

  13. Ahhh .. A ‘debate’ about football .. yawn, ZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

  14. Seimi –

    David Moyes has never won a thing, and he’s achieved it through dull, clunky football. I just can’t see it working out.

  15. Pete Moore

    That’s all true, but, despite severely limited funds and, let’s face it, a pretty mediocre bunch of players (Fellaini perhaps being an exception), he has managed to keep them out of the relegation zone, and usually in or around mid table. That’s quite an achievement.

    Give him good players and a whole sack of cash, and I think he’ll win trophies.

  16. Seimi –

    We’re talking Everton here, not Wigan. Bill Kenright, assisted by Moyes, has done a great of making everyone think they don’t have a pot to pee in. Moyes has a bigger net spend than Wenger, who has kept the Gunners in the top four.

    But it’s not just that. I’ve seen no hint of progressive football from Moyes. It’s industrial, fighting football from him. That’s fine if you can galvanise a squad of limited ability to scrap its way to mid-table every year, but managing highly talented superstars to trophies is a completely different task.

    I’ve simply not seen anything to justify giving him the job.

  17. Pete –

    The difference between Everton and Wigan is currently 13 places and 25 points. Everton could well be playing in Europe next year, whereas Wigan could be in the Championship.

    To be fair, Everton are leagues behind Arsenal in terms of finances. Net spend isn’t a good calculator of wealth in a case like this.

    You have to agree that Moyes has done a great job of keeping Everton in the top half, and we both agree that it will be interesting to see how he manages with a team of great players and a huge wad of cash. It could be that he will crash and burn – in which case – happy days! 🙂

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