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The above image showing an Abrams M-1 battle tank being loaded on to a railcar ready to depart for Wilhelmshaven, then onwards by sea towards South Carolina. This image represents the first time in 69 years when heavy armoured units, divisions, regiments, brigades have not been based on European, and more sensibly; German soil.

Is it any wonder that Putin makes his grab for the eastern side of the Ukraine when he knows that US heavy armour is based some nine-odd thousand miles from the scene of his latest bare-faced theft.

We can discount the British army, along with the Germans, the Dutch, Belgians and of course, the bloody French, Not a single soldier will spring to readiness as the creeping might of the Russian version of the jackboot stomps complacently on the Ukraine borders; the only credible deterrent has mooched off back home under the slack-arsed direction of the Appeaser-in-chief, Hussein himself.

The only people who are getting ready are the people with long memories; the Poles, Estonians, Latvians and Estonians. They remember only too well what the Russians were like when occupying or invading their Nations. N.A.T.O. is supposed to be moving, but all we see so far is all talk and bullshit. Putin knows that he has virtually no opposition. We spent our blood and treasure fruitlessly in Iraq and Afghanistan, we have no more mobile forces, and we have no political leadership with the guts to state ‘so far and no further’ because Putin would hear it for what it is, bluff and failure. Hague talks of diplomacy; of sanctions and visas.

And this is what we have become, a toothless tiger. I sometimes feel as if I should weep for my country!

 

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27 thoughts on “er, they went that-a-way, ’bout a year ago!

  1. I sometimes feel as if I should weep for my country!

    Some of us have been doing exactly that for a number of years through the socially engineered rapid decline, it’s all beyond redemption now, and there are no more tears left. ;-(

  2. I bet the amuricans have enough spy ware floating above russia that they know when putin farts in a closet. Their will be no surprise invasions and if Iraq and Afghanistan has taught us anything its that air power is where its at. Boots on the ground mean your soldiers die, planes in the air means theres do.

    Infact I wouldn’t be surprised if the amuricans don’t know exactly where tht Malaysian jet is, but revealing that would expose too much information on their capabilities

  3. There would have been no US military response by any US President to what has happened in Crimea

    As has been noted, Georgia was invaded by Russia under GW Bush, with no military response.

    All of Eastern Europe was occupied by the USSR in the aftermath of WW2, against the will of those peoples, without a US military response.

    A military response or the threat of one will make a bad situation much worse.

  4. Personally I think the Americans would only defend Europe for strategic reasons now. The Europeans have been so busy attacking and ridiculing them whilst remaining totally dependent on the US to protect them.

    Europe has made a cosy little socialist type world for itself in which personal freedoms, rights and benefits and other legal issues have been the main focus of attention. They have completely forgotten – or perhaps been encouraged to forget – that freedoms have to be protected. That we do not live in a benign world where every nation shares our values.
    Who would have thought that the Ukraine might become the flashpoint for a new European war? But Russia has been extremely clever. She has sold her natural gas to Europe, and now some major European economies are reliant upon it. Russia knows how weak Western Europe has become, and he is exploiting that weakness.
    We won’t see another USSR, but this Russia is more than capable of causing the fat burghers of Europe many sleepless nights. I would not be surprised to see the Ukraine annexed by her bigger and more powerful neighbour.

  5. I don’t expect Ukraine to be annexed. Influenced, not annexed.

    I think that Putin will be satisfied with the Crimean morsel, which Russians see as essential.

    Your comments about certain fat dumb and happy Europeans are spot on. We have some of them here.

  6. I donโ€™t expect Ukraine to be annexed. Influenced, not annexed.

    You are probably right. The Ukraine is a useful buffer for Russia, and has been serving that purpose for a long time now.

  7. A full annexation would mean a nasty war between Ukraine and Russia, where war / guerilla war would last a long time, and other countries getting involved would be a real possibility

    Putin, and the mob that he runs in, will not allow such a thing to happen.

  8. But Europe is going to have to toughen up militarily because your country is contracting its global military capability.

  9. //Not a single soldier will spring to readiness as the creeping might of the Russian version of the jackboot stomps complacently on the Ukraine borders;//

    “Son, your father died in the immortal struggle to prevent Crimean self-determination.
    And because there was some old fart in England who thought it was a pity nobody is fighting any more.”

    // think the Americans would only defend Europe for strategic reasons now. The Europeans have been so busy attacking and ridiculing //

    The sheer ingratitude of the Europeans, after the Americans liberating them during World War 2 and all.
    They should take an example from the Ukrainians, for whom over a million Russians lost their lives defending them from Naziism and who are now clearly so grateful.

  10. Many Ukranians actually saw the Germans as liberators.

    A couple of decades of Stalin and Communist poverty could lead one to think such things.

  11. Many other Ukranians would have seen the Germans and Russians both as predators, as would nearly all Poles, apart from the Communist quislings.

  12. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=861DJLR4Cek#t=509

    How the meddling, interfering US spends $5billion (OK – it’s only paper. The gold has already been stolen moved to the US for safe-keeping) to subvert Ukraine from within. Key passage at 07.45, but also note the sponsors. US government is ‘sponsored’ by corporations.

  13. //Many other Ukranians would have seen the Germans and Russians both as predators,//

    Some Ukrainian groups collaborated with the Russians, some with the Nazis and others – most notably the Ukrainian nationalists UPA and OUN – switched their collaboration back and forth, but of course always massacred the Poles and helped the Nazi’s massacre Jews.
    These groups continued fighting well after WW2 ended, with the support of the CIA.

    These were irregular gangs, often made up of peasants armed with farm tools. They murdered over 100,000 Poles living in what they wanted to be Ukraine.

    Here’s Norman Davis:

    “Some villages were torched. Roman Catholic priests were axed or crucified. Churches were burned with all their parishioners. Isolated farms were attacked by gangs carrying pitchforks and kitchen knives. Throats were cut. Pregnant women were bayoneted. Children were cut in two. Men were ambushed in the field and led away. The perpetrators could not determine the province’s future. But at least they could determine that it would be a future without Poles.”

    And you think the Tartars have a reason to fear Russians?

  14. These groups continued fighting well after WW2 ended, with the support of the CIA.

    Not the CIA again, they really have an awful lot of evil in this crazy world to answer for, the CIA are starting to make the Nazis look like rank amateurs.

  15. I doubt the CIA got much aid through, but some heroic Ukrainian nationalists resisted the Societ occupation for a good few years post-WW2. In Poland and the Baltic countries too the resistence continued, I think in a couple of cases into the 1960s.

    They are great heroes, all of them.

    Back to the post: has anyone noticed the colour of the tank? I suspect it’s been in Iraq rather than sitting in the Fulda Gap.

    This drawdown is long planned. Obama has little to do with it, Putin won’t be influenced by it whatsoever.

    The Russians would be hard pressed to invade and occupy Ukraine, and it isn’t going to happen. Western Europe is not under threat from some mythically resurgent Soviet Union. Anyone who thinks so is being hysterical.

  16. Obama has little to do with it…lol

    The US is going home. We thanks to Obama and the Congress are dismantling YOUR defenses, not ours.

    It’s going to be a very interesting ten years. Europe will be on it’s own. The only thing between you and Russia, Iran, and China are your own defenses.

    That’s OK, according to a majority on here those 3 are the worlds rightful benign future. Hope that works out well for you.

    I do find it amusing that the retreat to fortress America is being done exponentially by the left. I thought it was supposed to be the loony right that wanted America to be isolationist.

    The US is at the beginning of an internal restructuring. We have to many plates on our own table to either fill or clear away to worry about what happens to you lot.

    The battle for the direction of our own nation has begun.

    Oh we do wish the rest of you the best of luck.

  17. Oh we do wish the rest of you the best of luck.

    Thanks, I will make a start on a trench this afternoon .. when it stops raining.

    Them pesky Injuns Dam Russkies ๐Ÿ˜‰

  18. The US is at the beginning of an internal restructuring. We have to many plates on our own table to either fill or clear away to worry about what happens to you lot.

    That’s not nice, I thought, and according to Barry Oblimey, we were your ‘special and closest allies’ along with the other 100 or so ‘Special and closest allies’ ๐Ÿ˜‰

  19. Significant military drawdowns would have happened under any president.

    Money doesn’t grow on trees, you know.

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