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The question is whether the US is leaving Iraq too quickly? This follows  Thursday’s series of bombings that killed nearly 70 people in Baghdad. My own view is that the fact that some Iraqis want to kill others is nothing to do with US presence or otherwise. It is a factor of their hatred for each other and quite honestly I am happy that our military are no longer in the middle! When leftists moan about all those tens of thousands murdered in Iraq, they omit the detail that most of these have been slaughtered by fellow Muslims. I supported the removal of Saddam and his Ba’athist regime but I see no reason why we should remain in that land, acting as little more than target practise for deranged Islamists. Your thoughts?

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11 thoughts on “EXITING TOO QUICKLY?

  1. David

    If we are going to take the view that it doesn’t matter what murderous chaotic situation is left behind in Iraq and that one form of terror (Saddam’s) is simply being replaced by another (Sectarian) then what was the purpose of the hundreds of billions spent and the thousands of UK US and other service personnel lives lost ?

  2. ‘My own view is that the fact that some Iraqis want to kill others is nothing to do with US presence or otherwise.’

    Quite so, and by abusing their self appointed role as ‘policemen of the world’ and interfering in what was basically an internal dispute, the US and a dithering UN, has made matters much worse, likewise with the support for the Arab Spring nonsense.

    The US excuse that preemption is a valid reason to invade a country is a debateable topic of its own, relying, as it does on so-called ‘intelligence’, which in the case of Iraq and the ‘yellow cake’, and other intel, was proven to be, at best, dubious. Nevertheless it was also used as an additional reason for the second Gulf War.

    Add the additional ego-centric meddling of Blair, and a flavour of braggadocio by the playground ‘bully boys’, and is it any wonder the result is a total failure, as Ollie might say, – ‘and that’s another fine mess you’ve got us into!

    By such interference – even as so-called mediators, – and by making matters worse, we must assume some of the blame for possibly prolonging the conflict, and blame for our military losses must be laid solely at the feet of our respective governments.

    It was a purely politcal, rather than a military, decision to invade, had it been successful I am sure they would have been happy to accept the acclaim, now that it looks to be a failure, they – the politicians – must be prepared to held to account…

  3. “If we are going to take the view that it doesn’t matter what murderous chaotic situation is left behind in Iraq and that one form of terror (Saddam’s) is simply being replaced by another (Sectarian) then what was the purpose of the hundreds of billions spent and the thousands of UK US and other service personnel lives lost ?”

    Colm,

    Your analysis on the matter is tainted by your Irish genes. Think positive, dude.

    When I perform a #2, wipe my butt, flush the toilet and leave the loo I really don’t care what happens at the sewerage plant.

  4. it’s not that we are leaving to quickly, we are actually on the bush schedual, the failure is obamas reneging on our deal with the iraqies and not securing the 2 bases we purchased with our blood

  5. Eddie,

    I think that in this case the US hasn’t even bothered to flush…they’ve used up all the paper, and even forgotten to wash their hands! One might say – ‘fairly typical!’…

  6. Eddie,

    If I’m to understand your comment correctly then the Iraqi people can be equated with excrement. Charming.

    Plainly, the advances of civilization have passed you by. Yet I’ll be charitable and attribute your prejudices to your upbringing and social milieu.

  7. Troll,

    Quite so, – it’s a case of Obama trying to build a list of achievements in time for next years election, and he doesn’t mind wasting whatever good work has been done, by quitting early.

  8. Troll –

    ” … the failure is obamas reneging on our deal with the iraqies and not securing the 2 bases we purchased with our blood”

    Well there’s ingratitude for you. Why would the federal government want two military bases in Iraq?

  9. Eddie,
    Islam seems to inspire its adherents with the desire to kill/maim/mutilate/subjugate.
    Up until very recently the West had a realistic policy of working with whoever was able to keep these factions together in any given Islamic nation.
    It wasn’t nice, it wasn’t moral, but it was realistic and pragmatic.
    Now Muslim nations are in turmoil because they want freedom of thought and political expression within an Islamic context.
    Personally I don’t think this is possible. The two are mutually exclusive, and therein lies the dilemma.
    Islam is all about submission to the will of Allah and his laws. Hence a Muslim man or woman can never be free in the Western sense of freedom.

    Therefore, the West should stay out of their affairs, and ONLY interfere when our own vital interests are threatened. It was a waste of time, lives and money.

  10. “When leftists moan about all those tens of thousands murdered in Iraq, ”

    “I think that in this case the US hasn’t even bothered to flush…they’ve used up all the paper, and even forgotten to wash their hands”

    Happy Christmas.

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