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I suppose she has a point but it is a bit exaggerated surely?

Dame Helen Mirren has said that if she had children, the first words she would have taught a daughter would be ‘f*** off’ – after she endured years of sexism during her early career.   She says: ‘If I’d had children and had a girl, the first words I would have taught her would have been “f*** off” because we weren’t brought up ever to say that to anyone, were we?  ‘And it’s quite valuable to have the courage and the confidence  to say, “No, f*** off, leave me  alone, thank you very much.”  ‘You see, I couldn’t help saying “Thank you very much”, I just couldn’t help myself.’

Maybe she could choose better words? I like Mirren even if she is a champagne socialist but teaching your daughter to swear aggressively is not the optimum way forward.

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  1. Ah! – what a poor envious little luvvie! – the link reads as though she is now regretting not begetting or adopting offspring.

    How she must have suffered at the hands of all those nasty men, I would have thought she might have learned at least something during her trivial life, at least that fame and money are only a part of a happy life.

    And so that question ‘I wonder if I had, …….’ will haunt her for the rest of her – I was going to write, – her natural life, – but, of course, nothing very natural about her chosen lifestyle.

    That she seeks vengeance and receives sympathy, – quite ironic.

  2. David

    I doubt if she was totally serious 😉

    She is a great role model for women. She gives the impression of being vital, enjoying life and has every expectation of continuing to do so, regardless of age. The BBC in the 60s and 70s must have been a pretty awful place for many women, especially those with a brain in their heads. But then many work places weren’t much better.

  3. I enjoy her work, I think she quite stunning with a great character to her voice, but as with any actor, singer, entertainer in general.

    I’m really not interested in the political or life view opinions of anyone whose made their living in those industries. I like Allan Baldwins acting, I like Springsteens music, and that’s all I want from them.

    Look at the lives these people lead, their personal activities, and morality. Are those the people whose judgement on anything you want to give weight to?

    but I just love this from a movie worth watching

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jsvl7tZENC8

  4. Did she actually work for the BBC?

    ‘She is a great role model for women.’ – No she isn’t – she may be a role model, a ‘great one’ – no way!

    Things were most certainly very different in the ’60’s, whether better or worse than now, is entirly a matter of opinion.

    Certainly most men do admire a woman ‘of character’ – even ‘back then’, – what most dislike is a woman who tries to copy their inteprtatation of how a male behaves, – too bad that it rarely works.

    By trying to ‘out-male’ the male they sacrifice – in most casess, – any respect, – the respect which, if honest, they enjoy.

    Why when they have qualities different and superior to most men do they feel the need to imitate? Not all men are boors, at least not until lately, and she advocates boorish behaviour! That Stephen Fry sees it as acceptable, and normal, doesn’t make it so! – but then he does have an excuse.

    I guess that with her limited intelligence when she had to make a choice of profession ‘acting’ must have had the edge on serving behind a cash register. Such seems to be the case with so many in the acting profession.

  5. //And so that question ‘I wonder if I had, …….’ will haunt her for the rest of her – I was going to write, – her natural life, – but, of course, nothing very natural about her chosen lifestyle. //

    Ernest, are we reading the same article? The one above does not quote her saying anything like “I wonder if I had..”. There is no indicaton that she wishes she had children or that she is wondering how her life would be if she had.

    And deciding to remain childless is as perfectly “natural”, whatever that means, as any other human lifestyle or choice can be. Strange as it may sound to you, that is true for both women and men.

    There is also no indication that her life is any more trivial than yours or mine, and I am sure it is not.

  6. Noel,

    I never said that she said, ‘ I wonder…’, – but be sure that thought will cross her tiny mind occasionally.

    It is a thought that will cross any woman’s mind – as with anyone, male or female, who has made a choice and perhaps, even minimally, regrets it later.

    Doesn’t it happen to each and everyone of us?

  7. Aileen,

    As you no doubt gathered I am not one of her fans, nor indeed of most of the showbiz celeb clique.

  8. Ernest,
    Do you not like her because she is of “the showbiz celeb clique”?
    Although I haven’t watched much of her stuff I think she is a very attractive intelligent woman, similar to Joan Bakewell at her best.
    My own wife has lots of “quallies” but she had to work much harder to prove her worth in a man’s world, and there was resentment towards her. She was accepted I think because she is a quiet, logical and capable person, and had nothing to prove.

    I often think there is a comparison here with lion behaviour. The males lie around whilst the females make the kill and the males take the credit!
    There are lots of examples of male luvvies in the field of showbiz. Surely you can think of some examples?

  9. //Doesn’t it happen to each and everyone of us?//

    By all accounts, it does not.

    Some people realise very early that having children is not for them; others come to the decision when they see what it entails; still others can’t have children.

    Some people simply never met the kind of partner they’d like to have children with. Some people did, but she or he didn’t want to or couldn’t have children.

    But I’d say the largest group is made up of those who never thought much about it one way or the other, and when it never came their way they thought about it even less.

    It takes all kinds.

    I think you are just as mistaken about the size of HM’s mind as you are about the quality of her life – at least I’m sure she doesn’t have to spend a sunny Sunday morning in front of a computer posting comments to people she does not know.

  10. I agree with Ernesto on this one, even though he’s being a it ‘literary’ in part.

    Helen Mirren’s ‘bleat of chagrin’ at her childlessness, will become the general wail of our times, as women’s fecundity continues to fall further in this century. It’s only just beginning:
    The powerful steroidal effects of the Pill, plus early physical maturity & overweighted’ness will all combine to ensure the West’s demographic decline.

    Don’t get me wrong. Immigration will have no effect on this, as the same will happen to them as well, as they ‘buy-in’ to the Western lifestyle.

  11. Agit8ed,

    How wdo you know she is ‘intelligent’? surely recommending profanity as a useful ‘life-tool’ proves otherwise. It may relieve the temper, but does nothing for respect.

    The example of your wife’s experience surely proves my point that women can be very successful using their own special talents i.e quiet logicl patience.

    Your explanation of lion behaviour also also goes some way to prove the different qualities between male and female. The male protects the herd or tribe from outside predators, – the hard stuff, often against overwhelming odds. The females do the equally vital but perhaps less odious task of collecting the food.

    How chauvanistic, I hear Aileen muttering!, – but if we do not appreciate the differences of values and abilities between genders, then there is little hope for any of us!

    That many of today’s employments are multi-gender is great, but that doesn’t mean males and females have to act and behave the same way right across the board.

    ‘Vive le difference’, – it gives us all choice, and valuable experienc.

  12. Ernest,
    I think men and women are essentially equal as one can’t do without the other – at least not yet. Look at the fatherless or absent father families around. The kids suffer, the mothers struggle.
    For whatever reason you put it down to men and women are different halves of the whole. Reproduction and rearing children works best with a duo not a solo act.

    Imv women have it tougher in life especially since birth control.
    Do you pursue a career first or have children?
    Do you put your husband first or your profession?
    Do you make it in life by using your sexuality or your brains?
    Do you accept that life is easier if you play the stereotype (the little woman) or tell men to sod off?

    As a man I can never avoid seeing a woman first as “a woman.” I check out her looks, her body and her femininity. I cannot stop myself reacting to an attractive woman, but you get past that and start seeing the person. Is it the same with women?
    I dunno. My wife tells me that women look for different qualities in men.
    But eventually they get over the disappointment..
    😉

  13. ps
    “How wdo you know she is ‘intelligent’? surely recommending profanity as a useful ‘life-tool’ proves otherwise. It may relieve the temper, but does nothing for respect.”

    I think she was referring to the “little woman” thing.

  14. The male protects the herd or tribe from outside predators, – the hard stuff, often against overwhelming odds. The females do the equally vital but perhaps less odious task of collecting the food.

    Raising the children isn’t a walk in the park either Ernest, a task generally performed mostly by the femal of the species.

    Once again we see Helen Mirren’s profession used as a means of dismissing out of hand any views people in the entertainment industry may have with references to ‘luvvies’ and

    Those the people whose judgement on anything you want to give weight to?

    Most of us on ATW spend a considerable amount of time commentating on various social / political topics. What qualifies us to think that our views should be considered yet actors/ esses, musicians, sportsmen etc should be dismissed and ridiculed?

  15. Paul,

    Raising children most certainly isn’t a ‘walk in the park’, that’s why we have mariages, and why we expect folk to see parenthood as something more than just a means to ‘get benefits’. Children deserve two parents – two views on life, – two views of responsibilty. And that is why ‘parenthood’, and grandparenthood are the best things to happen for most people, – or at least it used to be!

    My reference to ‘luvvies’ and their followers is another topic, suffice to say that I feel their self-perceived sense of value to the community in general is way out of proportion to what little they contribute. Hollywood et al has much to answer for!

  16. Ernest,

    I was just thinking about you yesterday as I hadn’t seen any comments from you..

    I know you don’t like them but,
    🙂

  17. Ernest,

    I largely agree with most of your first paragraph but it doesn’t address the issue that females generally are left to the extremely difficult task of raising the children.

    I also find an interesting juxtoposition on your (quite cynical IMO) parenthood as something more than just a means to ‘get benefits and Bernard’s :

    The powerful steroidal effects of the Pill, plus early physical maturity & overweighted’ness will all combine to ensure the West’s demographic decline.

    There are some here on ATW that will speak out of both sides of their mouth on this; mourning the decline of white demographics whilst condemning the fecklessness and promiscuity of a ‘white trash’ underclass.

    Suffice to say that I feel their self-perceived sense of value to the community in general is way out of proportion to what little they contribute

    Couldn’t that same criticism be levelled agaist anyone here on ATW?

  18. “after she endured years of sexism during her early career”

    Ah another woman past her prime noticing the attention she has been accustomed to has dropped dramatically away. Now attempts to rationalize that she would have been far far better off if she had been born ugly.

    Of course, had she been born ugly, her career in the media would have been restricted to mopping the studio floor.

    Silly bint.

  19. Paul,

    ‘What qualifies us to think that our views should be considered yet actors/esses, musicians, sportsmen etc should be dismissed and ridiculed?’

    I note your expansion of the category I term as ‘luvees’, I was really referring to ‘show biz’ types. That their whole raison d’etre relies on publicity, any comment or opinion they have to offer has to be suspect, and not knowing many of them personally, I err on the side of caution.

    ‘Couldn’t that same criticism be levelled agaist anyone here on ATW?’

    Well, you speak for yourself! We have all contributed in some way to the communities we reside in, – but we don’t expect plaudits just for doing our jobs – they do, because they need the publicity, – anything to keep the fans happy!.

    As with any CV – there is the truth, and then, there is the truth’.

    When they spout such tripe as is the topic of this thread, then who is to say that I am being unfair, – and to such a cosseted maiden as she! – Yes Helen, that’s another one for your upcoming memoirs!

  20. I note your expansion of the category I term as ‘luvees’, I was really referring to ‘show biz’ types

    Sorry Ernest, the expansion wasn’t deliberate. For the sake of the debate let’s restrict it to ‘show biz’ types.

    In terms of the question I pose: Why should we expect our views to hold any more weight than those of show biz types?

    I find the expectancy that us, as social / political blog commentators, should expect to have our views taken into consideration while those show biz types that forward an opinion have that opinion dismissed out of hand because of the job that they do to be extremely arrogant.

  21. Ernest seems to have a particularly bitter opinion on Helen Mirren. Considering that I doubt he has ever met her or had her influence his life in any remote way negative or positive, it’s quite ridiculous the amount of sour grapes he is prepared to eat in her honour !

  22. “Ernest seems to have a particularly bitter opinion on Helen Mirren.”

    Maybe she stood him up.

  23. Paul,

    ‘I find the expectancy that us, as social / political blog commentators, should expect to have our views taken into consideration while those show biz types that forward an opinion have that opinion dismissed out of hand because of the job that they do to be extremely arrogant.’

    Yes I find your expectations re bloggers being taken seriously to be not only arrogant, but also naive in the extreme.

    I did explain that the opinions of anyone whose job relies on publicity, have to be treated with caution. I don’t think I said ‘dismissed out-of-hand’, that is your opinion not mine.

    Have you ever heard the expression that, ‘if you do a job you enjoy, you will never work a day in your life’, so it is with actors and actresses.

    That anyone who plays at ‘pretend’ for a living can even have an opinion is a feat in itself.

  24. Ernest

    Did you once attempt an acting career but failed the auditions ?

    Does that explain your hostility to our noble thespians ?

  25. Yes I find your expectations re bloggers being taken seriously to be not only arrogant, but also naive in the extreme

    So the (hundreds?) of thousands of political blogs (and ATW) don’t exist and my opinins re bloggers being taken seriously while show biz types are dismissed and ridiculed are ‘arrogant and naive?’

    Yeah okay Ernest. Does this thread exist?

    That anyone who plays at ‘pretend’ for a living can even have an opinion is a feat in itself.

    That sounds more like jealousy than anything else.

  26. Colm,

    Nothing ‘sour-grapee’, about it – that there has been nothing worth commentating on for the past week on ATW, I was satisfying a need to rattle a chain or two. – I believe that is the current excuse put forward to explain or diffuse any contentious situation or argument.

    Agit8ed,

    I did mention that I had never met her, – her bad luck, not mine.

    I ask you both, what response did you expect from such a puerile post? perhaps a little lightherated banter, a differing opinion or two? – if everyone commenting agreed, what would be the point? – none.

    That it all finally comes to the bottom of the barrel and resort is made to the ad hom remarks, is a sure sign that there is nothing more to add, and par for the course, is achieved with us all retaining our original opinions and influencing no-one.

    I rarely use my age as an excuse for such an utter waste of time, but this instance is an exeption, – what’s the excuse you two have to offer? Maybe we can expend another hour or two discussing why two healthy fellas are sitting at a keyboard on such a beautiful day as today.

  27. Oh Paul,

    I never said any such thing, – boy! you do have some imagination! not to mention a duplicitous mindset.

    Yes this thread does exist, does it have any impact on anything of import – a resounding NO!, – even the most informative of blogs have but a limited impact, and twitter even less.

    About the only blogs to cause a stir are the likes of wikileaks and other ‘secrets spreaders’. For every blog ‘for a cause’, there is another ‘against that same cause’ – you might call it the ultimate democracy, where everyone has an opinion and nothing gets done.

    And here you are getting ‘all girly’ with your indignation… how long before you get all stroppy over the occasional spelling mistake?

  28. Colm,

    Never even considered such a thing – of all the pointless, money grubbing, ego tripping, not to mention shallowest of careers, that has to be on the bottom rung, – and yes that was a pun!

    Did you? – perhaps as a ‘stand-up’ comedian, or do do they ‘lay-down’ ones these days? – no! – that would perhaps be ‘fall flat’, as in your case!

  29. “I ask you both, what response did you expect from such a puerile post? perhaps a little lightherated banter, a differing opinion or two? – if everyone commenting agreed, what would be the point? – none.”

    Come on.
    You have to admit Colm’s line was pretty funny.

  30. Oh Paul,
    I never said any such thing, – boy! you do have some imagination! not to mention a duplicitous mindset.

    What is it that I assume I’ve supposedly said butyou haven’t?

    And here you are getting ‘all girly’ with your indignation… how long before you get all stroppy over the occasional spelling mistake?

    Me? all girly & indignant?

    Nice bit of dramatic hyperbole there Ernest, however, what I’m doing is called having a discussion and it’s generally the purpose of blogs. If you believe that my manner on this has been ‘girly & indignant’ then I can only assume that you’ve led a bit of a sheltered life.

    I also don’t get stroppy over spelling mistakes.

  31. ps
    I am in and out from the back garden, trying not to overdo it as a certain gentleman cautioned against.
    Today has been a bit tougher as we are having a fast day according to our diet and I was getting shaky.

    I don’t know what Colm is doing, but it wasn’t either of us who said anything about sitting at a computer on a Sunday afternoon..

  32. Paul,

    ‘So the (hundreds?) of thousands of political blogs (and ATW) don’t exist’

    Never said it nor implied it!

    Your use of ‘arrogant’ seemed seemed churlish, if not girlish, – a fair comment it may have been, – maybe, – but in this instance, no way.

    Stroppy over spelling mistakes – that’s the next step after using ‘arrogant’ over something so trivial.

  33. Agit8ed,

    So you type with your toes while standing up watering the flowers? – I was first to mention it, because I had a reason – an arthritic knee, which is giving me hell! despite all the wonderful medication available, and yes! I admit to being envious of anything or anyone more moblile than me, the only thing less mobile is our pet tortoise.

    Did you read about that comedian Mel Smith who died recently, reputed at one time to be taking some fifty Nurofen a day! – now that’s some habit…

  34. I didn’t suggest you said it Ernest. it was a question I asked you.

    Stroppy over spelling mistakes – that’s the next step after using ‘arrogant’ over something so trivial

    Yeah? Okay then.

    Ernest there are many UScentric threads which I don’t bother reading let alone commenting on as I find them superficial. The first comment on this thread is yours. If the subject content is so trivial why waste your time commenting?

  35. “So you type with your toes while standing up watering the flowers? ”

    No, you donut!
    I am still levelling out the ground for where our lawn will go. The soil here is very clayey, and the dry weather has hardened it so I use a rake to break the topsoil up and move it around.

    They say you should drink plenty of water with arthritis and some people swear by raw honey and raw organic cider vinegar. I haven’t had anything serious like arthritis or rheumatism, although my two forefingers are getting kinda knobbly and twisted. Gout was bad enough!
    My sympathies to you.

  36. Paul,

    I did mention somewhere on this thread that I had nothing better to do, and I mistakenly thought a little mild discussion might brighten the day. The one thing I try to do, – as a senior, – is to keep mentally and physically active, – something that is much easier to say than do. However, I do try…

  37. Ernest

    Yes you are very trying…

    Lame I know, but I can’t think of anything wittier to say in the late lazy Sunday heat.

  38. Agit8ed,

    Drink more water – perish the thought! – to get up more than twice at night ensures that you will be tempted to ‘have a nap’ after lunch. Unfortunately, as we get older such choices achieve significance.

    Honey is something I have had faith in for a while, and I have recently tried cinnamon in water, which, asks yet another question – which is worse, – the foul taste, or the pain, – easy to answer, if it works…?

  39. Going to be horribly hot tomorrow 🙁

    I feel like shouting obscenities to the sun these days but I’ll resist. Not a good example for next door’s kids.

  40. Thank you all for adding a ‘little something’ to my day, while I wouldn’t go so far as to say ‘you have made an old fella happy’, at least it has been much better than being condemned to watching what must be the worst TV offerings anywhere on the planet…

  41. Colm,

    I realise you are just practising your ‘fall-flat’ routine.. 🙂

  42. Ernest,
    you are obviously open to new ideas so why not read up on the benefits of honey and raw organic apple cider vinegar?
    Evidently although the cider vinegar is (obviously) an acid, it changes to an alkaline in the body.
    Having worked with the elderly 🙂 I can tell you that not drinking enough fluids often leads to urine infections.
    So I do appreciate that increased fluid intake leads to increased trips to the loo, but that is better than having infections.
    And there are gadgets/attachments that can help..

    Did you never hear about Billy Connolly’s special trewsers?

  43. Thank you all for adding a ‘little something’ to my day, while I wouldn’t go so far as to say ‘you have made an old fella happy’,

    You’re welcome Ernest. Half decent documentary on BBC2 now about Uri Geller working for Mossad and other military intelligence & secret services.

  44. Ernest

    Are you in the UK at the moment. Do you really think television here is the worst in the world ?

  45. Aahhhh! I read the post and was going to log in and follow Helen Mirren’s lead and tell you all to F*ck off. Then I log in and see, most recently, you’re all being cuddly warm nice to each other. Way to ruin my day ATW! Hope all is well with all of you and the heat hasn’t sent you over the edge…except for maybe…well, he went over the edge a loooong time ago…;-P

  46. Hi mairin David said he’d run my piece on a strengths focused employment model. I just need to get myself in gear to send it.

  47. ” should be urinary tract infections…way to p*ss me off A8…;-P!”

    Ewwwwwwwwwwh!

  48. Hi Aileen,
    That’s great! I can’t wait to read it. I just had a conversation with a young woman who feels she’s been passed by and we came up with a plan that focuses on her strengths…of which there are many. She met with a VP on Friday…fingers crossed he comes through for her! Another intern/mentee (not mine) who would benefit from this comes to mind…she has options in journalism, editorial, and finance…she’ll be starting on a career next year and has been meeting with various professionals.
    You definitely have to pursue consulting! Post it on ATW please!

  49. A8…I hope ‘p*ss me off’ doesn’t mean anything bad there…here, it just means to make someone ‘angry’…

  50. mairin

    for you I’ll do it tomorrow!

    Colm

    you missed a trick there. We could have let mairin think it had only a literal meaning here 😉

  51. Oh!
    My comment disappeared.
    Yes mairin2 it means the same here but in this context of urinary infections I have dealt with elderly ladies suffering from same.
    Hence the
    Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwh!

  52. haha…Aileen…I’m scratching at my eyes trying to banish the image…:-)
    A8, those infections are not a laughing matter. I hope you don’t have to deal with too many.

  53. Actually the Americans copied the phrase from this side of the pond. They used to say ‘pissed’ instead of ‘pissed off’ and Americans may be interested to know both terms have different meanings here. The former meaning drunk and the latter meaning annoyed.

  54. Hi a Mháirín 🙂

    I’ve seen the video before. It’s great, isn’t it? My own girls have done this before, and they all loved it.

  55. Colm, my first time in Belfast I was warned off of saying that phrase because I might be misunderstood. It could have been the family I was staying with…anyway…it’s something I say a lot and I’ve never been shushed here…only in Ireland. Wasn’t sure if A8 took it the wrong way.

  56. I love listening to it. (Wish they hadn’t placed the ‘Jack Daniels’ ad-like guitar in it though). Sometimes it’s the simple things..like a song…that inspires us to learn (more) new things!

  57. mairin

    I don’t understand why anyone would say that “Pissed off” would be misunderstood, considering it means exactly the same thing in Ireland, England and Uncle Sam land !

  58. Or this? Des Bishop (as you may know) is an American stand-up comedian who moved to Ireland and learned Irish. This is his interpretation of House of Pain’s ‘Jump Around’ 🙂

  59. Here’s a lovely song sung by a friend of mine, Julie Fowlis.

    And it’s a particularly admirable sentiment -Biodh an Deoch Seo ‘N Làimh Mo Rùin means, ‘May this drink be in the hands of my love’ 🙂

    Biodh an Deoch Seo ‘N Làimh Mo Rùin

    BTW, if you’ve seen the Pixar film, Brave, it’s Julie who sings the main title song, Touch the Sky.

  60. Colm…I can only speculate…the lady of the house might have been a bit touchy. I’ve been told I stayed in a ‘posh’ part of the town and it’s true the head of household worked (in England when necessary and Belfast) so I guess it was unusual. The LOTH was very proper…and agoraphobic (IMHO) so I played nice.

    Seimi, Belfast people talk way too fast. Once I was in Cork (way out in the boonies) with a man from Belfast who drove me to Waterford for some family business. On the way back home, we were in a pub for dinner and this guy started talking to what I can only describe as duck hunters…and I hadn’t a clue what was being said…I assumed they were speaking Irish and walked off, thinking they were being rude. Turns out they were all speaking English and they thought I was a snotty American.
    Just gave my little Aussie friend (leaves Thursday) the BRAVE figurines… 🙂

  61. Colm,

    ‘Are you in the UK at the moment. Do you really think television here is the worst in the world ?’

    Yes I am in the UK, and I will say that – in my opinion, – UK tv is vying for top spot as the worst in the western world, – the exception is that of David Attenborough, a man who really knows his subject and, more importantly, how to present it. Truly a gem amid the crap!

  62. I’ve heard before that we speak too fast, Mairin.

    Funnily enough, around 15 years ago, myself and 2 work colleagues had to go to Skibereen, in west Cork, to adjudicate a competition. We had to interview a committee, and I opened proceedings, introducing everyone, and explaining that one of my colleagues would be asking most of the questions. We had chosen her because myself and the other guy were both from Belfast, while she was from Connemara, and we thought her accent would be easier to understand. She asked her first question, and the committee all looked round at each other, and the Chair asked, if we wouldn’t mind, would I ask them the questions, as I was more understandable than her! And this was in Irish! 🙂

  63. Yes! you’re understandable in Irish but not English…;-P
    I think a law should be passed not allowing Irish teachers to have mustaches…or moustaches! Do you guys not know that we (new learners) need to read your lips to make out what the hell is going on with your tongue and lips and beyond??? No innuendos meant…though lord knows a field day could be had..lose the ‘stash’ if you’re teaching Irish (not you, Seimi…but all the other men and women Irish teachers out there! 🙂

  64. Mairin, the only time I’ve ever sported a moustache was a bout 20 years ago, and that was when a group of us dared each other to grown them! Thank feck there are no photos!

    I think that what you, or anyone needs when learning Irish – or any subject/language – is a patient, friendly teacher. If you find a good teacher, the knowledge just flows from them. My father, biaised as I am, is a fantastic Gaelic speaker and teacher, and he would teach by teaching you songs 🙂

  65. Send him over! 🙂 I bet we could keep him busy!
    I used to be a special ed teacher (long ago) and I had some notable success teaching through song. In fact, I once ‘taped’ (back in the VCR days) several versions of “The Barney” (grating purple thing) clean-up song back to back. My preschooler then (she’s at uni now) cleaned the house for at least half an hour every day when I put that tape in! Sometimes if things were a little too dusty, I’d play it twice…;-) There’s something to be said for learning through song!…Did you ever find out about that song/ditty about “selling your ‘O'”? It’s not that important but I’d like to hear/read it again.

  66. He’d be over like a shot! 🙂

    I asked him about the song, but he say’s he’s never heard it. I’ll try and track it down.

  67. Chris Hitchens wrote the hopefully true story of two British Diplomats who were drinking the last night at some far off embassy (before the place was turned over to the natives). They concluded that the most enduring contribution to the World of the Empire would be the game of football and the expression fuck off.

    I can’t agree with the former but the latter has some validity.

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