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All so contrived. This is what the Irish Times says…

The mother (R) of Palestinian Ateya Abu Moussa, who has been held prisoner by Israel for 20 years, reacts as she is hugged by her sister after hearing news on the possible release of her son. Abu Moussa was expected to be among more than 100 Arab prisoners to be released as a step to renew stalled peace talks with the Palestinians in Washington today.

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It doesn’t say why Moussa was in prison. So let me tell you

Ateya Abu Moussa, as we noted in our post, was convicted of murdering holocaust survivor  Isaac Rotenberg with an axe in 1994. The terrorist attack on Rotenberg was carried out by Abu Moussa and an accomplice as a precondition (an initiations of sorts) of their entry into a terrorist organization.

Hat tip to GIF WATCH.

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  1. ” Ateya Abu Moussa, as we noted in our post, was convicted of murdering holocaust survivor Isaac Rotenberg with an axe in 1994 ”

    She isn’t related to Haj Amin el Husseini by any chance?

    Here’s a picture of him having tea with Herr Hitler.

    They were very concerned about the slanderous rumours accusing them of wishing harm to Jewish people and PsewdoJewish people.
    As if they would….
    😉

  2. What a sweet looking lady.

    I shall imagine that the apple didn’t fall far from the tree.

  3. Sorry,
    misunderstood.
    I was looking for pictures of the man with Hitler. Just read the article. What bit did you wish to discuss?

    If it’s the bit about a lack of conclusive evidence, there are lots of sites which discuss his loyalties during WW2.

    This is quite a good one.

    http://www.tellthechildrenthetruth.com/gallery/

    Mind you, I suppose the photos could be faked?

  4. Agit8ed –

    I didn’t wish to discuss anything. I just found a couple lines of interest.

    If the reviewer is correct, Hitler wasn’t that hot on the Grand Mufti, which would skewer a certain propaganda line which rears its head from time to time.

    However, the interesting bits include that “he sat down with Adolf Eichmann and sabotaged a plan to transfer Jewish children from Eastern Europe to Palestine”. Eichmann wished to transfer Jewish children to the Holy Land? I didn’t know that.

    Also, the reviewer claims that members of the Stern Gang tried to enlist the help of the Nazi regime in 1941 against Britain. This I knew, but I didn’t know that Yitzhak Shamir (the evil bastard) was one of them. Imagine, a future PM of Israel appealing to Nazi Germany for aid against the British.

    It’s funny how things go, eh? No, I don’t wish to discuss any of it, but thanks for the link.

  5. ” The Stern plan was always unreal. One of the fundamentals of the German-Italian alliance was that the eastern Mediterranean littoral was to be included in the Italian sphere of influence. Furthermore, on 21 November 1941, Hitler met the Mufti and told him that although Germany could not then openly call for the independence of any of the Arab possessions of the British or French – out of a desire not to antagonise Vichy, which still ran North Africa – when the Germans overran the Caucasus, they would swiftly move down to Palestine and destroy the Zionist settlement.

    Stern was one of the Revisionists who felt that the Zionists, and the Jews, had betrayed Mussolini and not the reverse. Zionism had to show the Axis that they were serious, by coming into direct military conflict with Britain, so that the totalitarians could see a potential military advantage in allying themselves with Zionism. To win, Stern argued, they had to ally themselves with the Fascists and Nazis alike: one could not deal with a Petliura or a Mussolini and then draw back from a Hitler.”

    from
    http://azvsas.blogspot.co.uk/2012/07/death-of-israels-pro-nazi-prime.html

  6. ” Imagine, a future PM of Israel appealing to Nazi Germany for aid against the British.”

    No one would claim that all Jews are good people Pete.

  7. I do believe that George Bush’s Grandpappy, Prescot Bush a some pretty close links with Hitler and the Nazis (purely for business purposes mind) at some point in time, His company supplied the special oil required to run the Panzer tanks and just about all of the Luftwaffe ..

    How Bush’s grandfather helped Hitler’s rise to powerRumours of a link between the US first family and the Nazi war machine have circulated for decades. Now the Guardian can reveal how repercussions of events that culminated in action under the Trading with the Enemy Act are still being felt by today’s president

    http://www.theguardian.com/world/2004/sep/25/usa.secondworldwar

  8. U.S. economist Victor Thorn has noted that although a large number of other corporations aided the Nazis (such as Standard Oil and Rockefeller’s Chase Bank, as well as U.S. automobile manufacturers) Prescott Bush’s interests were much more profound and sinister.

    Thorn adds that UBC became a secret channel to protect Nazi capital leaving Germany for the United States via the Netherlands. When the Nazis needed to retrieve their funds, Brown Brothers Harriman sent them directly to Germany.

    In this way, UBC received money from the Netherlands and Brown Brothers Harriman sent it back. And who was on the executive of both of these companies? Prescott Bush himself, the Nazis’ first money launderer.

    http://rense.com/general40/bushfamilyfundedhitler.htm

  9. Phantom, on August 2nd, 2013 at 9:16 PM Said:
    Now Allan’s gonna become a big Prescott Bush fan.

    Or not, as the case maybe 😉

  10. The Prescott Bush allegations against him personally as some sort of Nazis sympathizer are discredited, but they are the type of stuff that keeps the conspiracy folks happy. Oddly enough, actual anti-semites are the ones who trump such stories.

  11. Phantom

    One too many palm meet face moments ;-0

    Mind you it has been at times very entertaining standing on the byside and watching the slanging arguing drunken spats ranting and raging debates going on .. I now consider myself an ATW character expert on the level of alcohol conumed by individuals, and the approximate time in hours and minutes when that last glass of Red wine kicked in 😉

  12. It must run in the family ..

    Samuel Prescott Bush (1863 October 4 Brick Church NJ – 1948 February 8 Columbus OH) was the father of Senator Prescott Bush, grandfather of George H. W. Bush and greatgrandfather George W. Bush.

    He was the son of the Rev. James Smith Bush.

    In the spring of 1918, Bush became chief of the Ordnance, Small Arms and Ammunition Section of the War Industries Board of Bernard Baruch and Clarence Dillon, with national responsibility for government assistance to and relations with Remington and other weapons companies.BUsh was essentially taking national responsibility for government assistance to his own Remington Arms Company and other weapon makers. Through these weapons manufacturers, Samuel Bush made and sold arms to 75% of the WWI combatants on both sides.

    Senate hearings in 1934 by the Nye committee attacked the ‘Merchants of Death’—war profiteers such as Remington Arms and the British Vickers company—whose salesmen had manipulated many nations into war and then supplied weapons to all sides.

    http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=104×633661

  13. Senate hearings in 1934 by the Nye committee attacked the ‘Merchants of Death’—war profiteers such as Remington Arms and the British Vickers company—whose salesmen had manipulated many nations into war and then supplied weapons to all sides.

    Harri

    I trust you are not attacking our glorious arms industry. Only “commie scum” do that.

  14. Peter

    Well I did live in a Communist and then ex-Communist Country for quite a number of years 😉 On second thoughts, they did join the Federal European Union, so i assume it still is a Communist Country … only worse

  15. they did join the Federal European Union, so i assume it still is a Communist Country … only worse

    Harri

    I agree with the sentiment and I hate the EU federalist project. But it’s ridiculous to compare it to eastern Europe before 1989. I was in East Berlin in 1988 and I saw the Stasi in action at close quartres. There is nothing remotely like that in the EU. The Rightworld conceit of the EUSSR is propagandist bullshit.

  16. Harri,
    ATW can become addictive. It’s quite weird really because most of us have no idea what each other is really like.
    I mean, if you actually met me you’d wonder how such a nasty piece of work could come across as such a nice guy on ATW….
    🙂

  17. Peter

    Not accordimng to my immediate family and many Eastern European freinds, the saying here is ” At least the Russki had the balls to do it all to our faces ”

    They are right there, at least my wife does not have to march down the local square with her blue kneckerchief and little red book and hail and salute a statue of Lenin anymore … I moved out before my kids have to do the same to a statue of Barrosso, or worse .. Baroness Ashton ;-( and have to pay for it as well.

  18. Peter –

    “I was in East Berlin in 1988 and I saw the Stasi in action at close quartres.”

    What were they doing – monitoring you, surveilling you, knowing everything about you? That bad Stasi, totalitarian stuff?

  19. The Rightworld conceit of the EUSSR is propagandist bullshit.

    I’m above the right-left matrix but the notion that things in the UK are not like the USSR is worthy of challenge:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2381769/Cambridge-dinner-lady-Alison-Waldock-sacked-accidentally-dishing-gammon-Muslim-girl.html

    Primary school dinner lady sacked after 11 years for accidentally dishing up gammon to Muslim girl

    Alison Waldock, 51, apologised for mistake as soon as error was spotted

    She said it was difficult to keep track of more than 40 students with different dietary requirements with the lists she was given

    But despite 11 years working as a dinner lady, she was sacked by Queen Edith Primary School in Cambridge

    The fact is that all of us could be sacked for saying ‘the wrong thing’ at any time, and if an ‘inappropriate’ tweet is twatted by the twits who are stupid enough to be drawn into using Big Brother’s communication network which includes Facebook, the jail and loss of livelihood is an outcome.

  20. Allan

    I may be saying this for the first time but – good point.

    If it is as described, that is a serious injustice.

  21. As someone pointed out sometime ago on ATW with reference Islam and Muslims

    ” You will not change them, they will change you “

  22. I said that, a number of times.

    The inobservant do not notice the changes, which are happening slowly and methodically.

  23. Agit

    I wonder if the good Lady believed this load of twaddle

    ” Nothing to hide, nothing to fear “

  24. Bed time for me Harri!
    Been laying paving slabs today.
    You should turn in too.
    Give your ticker a rest.

  25. Phantom

    If ever there was a quote for the ‘Quote of the Century’ .. that would be the one

    All that Dhimmitude and appeasment is going to come back and haunt a lot of gullible people .. and then for good measure bite them severely on the arse.

  26. Agit8ed, on August 2nd, 2013 at 10:41 PM Said:
    Bed time for me Harri!

    Do they do early morning sermons on Saturdays now 😉

    Goodnight

  27. Pete Moore posted:

    What were they doing – monitoring you, surveilling you, knowing everything about you? That bad Stasi, totalitarian stuff?

    No, it was quite banal. But I was well aware that I was being watched and listened to, having been identified as a Westi in Frederichstrasse, about 200 metres from Checkpoint Charlie, but on their side. I was staying in West Berlin and was on a one day trip to East Berlin. It changed my view of the world.

  28. So Pater, you’re not being watched here when you’re in town, when you’re on your phone, Facebook, Twitter, or when you’re on the internet:

    https://medium.com/something-like-falling/2e7d13e54724

    It was a confluence of magnificent proportions that led six agents from the joint terrorism task force to knock on my door Wednesday morning. Little did we know our seemingly innocent, if curious to a fault, Googling of certain things was creating a perfect storm of terrorism profiling. Because somewhere out there, someone was watching. Someone whose job it is to piece together the things people do on the internet raised the red flag when they saw our search history.

  29. I’d like to hear about how the trip changed your perspective Pete.

    I have a friend from Leipzig and she told me that in the wake of the fall of the USSR and the reunification of Germany quite a lot of people from ‘the party’ re – emerged as German People’s Union party members.

  30. Paul

    I can only speak about the Czech Republic and Slovakia, but it appears that those ex-Communist party members own just about every ‘Black building’ there is going, Black building being an establishment we know as brothels, the buildings do not require any planning permission whatsoever, the Police get it all for free as do the current politicians and anyone else in authority, they pay absolutely no tax or rates either, they are untouchable, if you own some land and one appears .. tough

  31. Harri, how long were you in Czechoslovakia before the velvet revolution?

    Like Pete, I’d be fascinated to hear your experiences and how they shaped your political perspectives.

    I have a few Croatian friends and when I was there, inr the wake of succession and the war, the opinions I heard re Tito were overwhelmingly positive.

  32. Two years Paul

    And did get some serious shit thrown at me by the border guards, the older ones just relieved me of most of money, and at Christmas time relieved me of all of my families presents as well.

    Speaking to older members of my wifes family, they much preferred the Soviets than the European union, but, they are raging Commies 😉

    Anything in particular you wished to know?

  33. Paul

    Of little importance, but I can safely say with all authority, that the food was and still is .. awfull 😉

  34. Nothing specific Harri just gneral living conditions, corruption in politics and how fervently they adhered to ‘The Party’, in the wake of my German friend’s anecdote about ‘Party’ people reinventing themselves as German nationalists.

    I’d be particularly interested in hearing how you as a foreigner were regarded by the natives and how the other eastern bloc nations were viewed.

  35. I’d be particularly interested in hearing how you as a foreigner were regarded by the natives and how the other eastern bloc nations were viewed.

    By those in authority, I was regarded with very much suspicion, from anyone else I met, with very much warmth and compassion, they would share there last crum bs with you, very humbling indeed.

    As far as I can tell all Eastern Europeans, in particular the older generation were and still are inherent racists towards other bloc Countries, the Czechs hated the Slovaks who in turn detest the Poles, cant stand the Germans or the Austrians, and think the Russians are savages.

    They treat the Roma with absolute disgust, but there, they have a very valid point.

  36. I can understand the hostility towards Austrians, Germans and Russians in historical terms and the Roma don’t exactly do themselves any favours but what was the basis for the enmity between the others?

    Did you, as a foreigner, ever encounter any xenophobic hostility directed at you?

    The food was and still is .. awful

    I can understand that fully, I really miss food from back home. I had some friends over here last month and they brought me 17kgs of food over, including six mince beef & onion pies.

    I really really miss pies.

  37. Paul

    I did answer in a longer post, but hit the deleted button by mistake, so to keep it short

    Did you, as a foreigner, ever encounter any xenophobic hostility directed at you?

    Only from the Roma

  38. Only from the Roma

    Interesting. What happened and was it because you were specifically from northern Europe as I would have assumed that the Roma treat all none – Roma as foreigners?

    Can you give me a short version of the uneasiness felt between eastern bloc neighbours?
    e.g how would the Czechs feel about Serbians etc?

  39. The Czechs and the Slovaks think the Serbs are all crazy arsed alcoholics, again they do seem to have point all the Serbs I have met in Bratislava have been as mad as a box of frogs.

    You are absolutely correct about the Roma, they treat any non-Roma person with contempt.

    The Hungarians seem to get along with most, the Romanians on the other hand get a bad press, whilst the Kosovans, and there are whole communities in Slovakia get along just fine, I have had some brilliant nights out with Kosovans, I have siad this before on ATW but my pet hate is Country and Western music, and some years back we were given tickets to a Country & Western night, in the most run down part of Bratislava (Pezenelka) the singer was a Kosovan Transvestite .. I can honestly say it was the best night out I have ever had 🙂

    There are a lot of Vietnamese in Slovakia, they get a hard time too .. and so do Gays, that is still very much frowned upon, and most of it is still underground.

  40. BTW

    As you will be aware, most of Eastern Europe is predominantly Catholic, but as far as I can tell they are almost a big a hyprocrits as Muslims 😉

  41. Albanian of Serb Kosovans?

    My pet hate is Country and Western music

    I think we might have more in common than previously thought . . .

  42. Albanian

    I know they have a pretty bad reputation, but I think most of the Albanian gangsters, pickpockets and pimps, are now in Great Britain 😉

    Paul

    And Musicals, I just don’t get it !

  43. Is there any friction between the Serb and Albanian Kosovan communities in Czechland Harri or are they predominantly from the same group?

  44. I have no experiance of any problems, but as you point out, I do believe they are all very close knit and from the same group, I would not wish to get on the wrong side of them I know that for sure.

    I think the women rule the roost there.

  45. Paul.
    If you don’t like Country and Western,
    perhaps Country and Southern floats your boat?

  46. “There are a lot of Vietnamese in Slovakia”

    What the what are a load of Vietnamese doing in Slovakia?

  47. What the what are a load of Vietnamese doing in Slovakia?

    Running all the markets, and I have no idea how, or why they go there

  48. If anyone from ATW ever visits Bratislava, and happens to come across an ‘Authentic’ Chinese restaurant, it aint Chinese, the decor might be, but it will be Vietnamese running the rest of it 😉

    Food is half decent though and used to be quite cheap .. untill they joined the Euro

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