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A message of God’s love to the Jews and to the Christians among us:

 

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  1. Behold the Son of Fred, fresh from a deposition at Trump Tower, spreading all the holy water around.

  2. Spoken by Trump with about as much sincerity and personal religious feeling as an autocue reader can deliver.

  3. Trump can be passionate and sincere when he speaks but this just sounded like he was reading whatever was on an autocue without having any personal input into it. he could have been reading a bus timetable.

  4. Is it not blasphemy to have a corrupt thief speaking about religion and good will?

    Better you had Stormy Daniels talk.

  5. The theological Trump has been somewhat hidden, but this is a very warm message. It’s also a very generous one, given that Jews crucified Trump, but Trump is a natural healer.

  6. It’s refreshing to have a Christian in the White House, at last.

    Yep, I particularly like his respectful reverence to the Christian sacrament of marriage.

  7. Thank God for President Trump! I see Christ mocked today as He was on the cross!

  8. Judge not less ye be judged….. It’s so nice to know that you are all such examples of godliness or for the heathens paragons of virtue….

  9. Judge not less ye be judged….. It’s so nice to know that you are all such examples of godliness or for the heathens paragons of virtue….

    Pat, I’ve never ‘moved on someone like a bitch’ and ‘tried to fuck her, and she was married’

    As someone who’s not even a Christian even I know that that’s against Christian teachings.

  10. I think that Trump would Have lived his entire life in basic opposition to everything that Jesus ever said

  11. Allan

    You are outside of all Christian thought on this

    Shame on you

    And by the way, Jesus was a Jew, so you have to
    hate him also

  12. Shame on you

    No shame from me, Phantom – but shame on you for being fooled all of your life. The depiction at 10.50pm is accurate

  13. Allan

    Can you please identify The Protestant or Catholic thinkers that have influenced your thinking on this subject?

  14. //Noel that’s inappropriate.//

    The ass in my picture isn’t nearly as inappropriate at Easter as the ass in Patty’s talking about Christ.

  15. Phantom, on March 30th, 2018 at 11:32 PM Said:

    Allan

    Can you please identify The Protestant or Catholic thinkers that have influenced your thinking on this subject?

    Why not just look at what happened?

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/christianity/history/whokilledjesus_1.shtml

    The next day Jesus raids the Temple, the heart of the Jewish religion, and attacks money-changers for defiling a holy place.

    The leaders of the Jewish establishment realise that he threatens their power, and so do the Romans, who fear that Jesus has the charisma to lead a guerrilla uprising against Imperial Rome.

    Caiaphas was a supreme political operator and one of the most influential men in Jerusalem. He’d already survived 18 years as High Priest of the Temple (most High Priests only lasted 4), and had built a strong alliance with the occupying Roman power.

    Caiaphas knew everybody who mattered. He was the de-facto ruler of the worldwide Jewish community at that time, and he planned to keep it that way

    There was a Passover amnesty, which allowed the Roman governor to release a prisoner on the festival. Pilate offered the crowd a choice between Jesus and Barabbas, a convicted murderer.

    The crowd shouted for Barabbas to be released.

  16. Pat, I’ve never ‘moved on someone like a bitch’ and ‘tried to fuck her, and she was married’

    As someone who’s not even a Christian even I know that that’s against Christian teachings.

    You’ve said and supported things that aren’t Christian, but I guess it wouldn’t bother you if someone said they weren’t since you no longer have faith and have disavowed religion.

    Which makes you totally unqualified to make any judgement about how anyone observes their faith.

  17. As have you and your guy in the Oval Office and I’m as qualified as you or anyone else to point out hypocriscy.

    The big difference of course is that I’ve never publically professed to being a Christian.

  18. As have you….. when?

    I’ve not renounced my belief in god, Catholicism, or faith……

  19. “The theological Trump has been somewhat hidden” – Pete Moore wins the prize for subtlety.

  20. I thought this was funny. Hopefully doesn’t offend anyone. WhatsApp group for the 12 Apostles

  21. Patrick Van Roy,

    Judge not less ye be judged…..

    Says the most judgmental person on ATW.

  22. Trump doesn’t really follow the Teachings of the New Testament. But to be fair, most of the so-called Christians I’ve come across don’t either.

  23. George Bush was a real Christian…

    President George Bush has claimed he was told by God to invade Iraq and attack Osama bin Laden’s stronghold of Afghanistan as part of a divine mission to bring peace to the Middle East, …

    That didn’t work out too well.

  24. Jimmy Carter was on the Colbert show last night; at the age of 92 he still has his intellectual fastball

  25. If someone is stupid enough to believe Trump on anything they are clearly stupid enough to believe him as in a religious context.

  26. Or did you mean I’ve said or supported things that weren’t christian?

    Yes, however the subject at hand here isn’t you or I but your guy in the White House. To suggest that because someone doesn’t profess to be a Christian they’re not qualified to point out when someone who does profess to be a Christaian treats one of the most sacred Christian sacraments with contempt defies logic.

    I’m still working on the post and it’s Aberri Eguna, (the day of the Basque warrior), here tomorrow so I’ll be out all day at la fiesta. I’ll bang it off to you when I finish it Pat, thanx a mill too.

    Jimmy Carter was probably the last genuinely Christian US President.

    Spot on as usual Colm.

  27. I don’t know about the last true Christian president, but I do know what a true Christian Prime Minister looks like…

    Maybe even Petr, and his dire political predictions can’t possibly get this one wrong?.

    Hungary elections 2018: Fears over migration fuels Viktor Orban as he SOARS in polls
    DESPITE Brussels’ disgust for Hungary’s Prime Minister, Viktor Orbán is gaining popularity in the polls just one week ahead of the country’s parliamentary elections.

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/939772/Hungary-election-2018-Viktor-Orban-polls-latest-immigration-fear

  28. Paul McMahon, on March 31st, 2018 at 6:04 PM Said:
    Well, if misappropriation, clientism, nepotism and corruption are Christian traits I suppose you’re correct:

    He would actually fit in very well at Brussels then.

    😏

  29. One’s Road to Damascus can be long and filled with rocks and potholes

    Is Damascus in the UK?

  30. I think Orban is running a protectionist racket as well…

    He is trying to protect the women of Hungary from mass gang rape by Africans and Arabs.

  31. He would actually fit in very well at Brussels then.

    So why criticism for alleged Brussels corruption yet plaudits for Budapest corruption?

    Actually he wouldn’t fit in at all well in Brussels as the great irony is that he doesn’t even consider himself to be ethnically European:

    Kazinform reports that Orban told that he feels at home in Kazakhstan as opposed to the EU. He told it after the talks in Astana. “We are always glad to come to Kazakhstan. We are equal in political terms in the European Union, but genealogically we are different . When we go to Brussels we do not have any relatives there. But when we come to Kazakhstan we have close people here. It is a strange feeling for us but it is true. Therefore, Hungarian delegations always come to Kazakhstan with pleasure,”

    http://www.freehungary.hu/index.php/56-hirek/3764-i-feel-at-home-in-kazakhstan-as-opposed-to-the-eu-hungary-pm-orban-says

    You of course will know that the Hungarians are not Slavic. Magyarország is the name of Hungary in Hungarian:

    http://hungarianhistory.freeservers.com/magyars.html

  32. Actually he wouldn’t fit in at all well in Brussels as the great irony is that he doesn’t even consider himself to be ethnically European:

    Good man.

    😁

  33. So, misappropriation, clientism, nepotism and corruption in Budapest by a leader who considers himself to be ethnically Asian?

    Your hatred for the EU has blinded you to logic. I think you need to re examine the definition that hypocriscy that you’re always going on about H.

  34. As long as the Hungarian, Slovakian, Polish and the Czech women are saved from the African and Arab mass rapists, I’m cool with that.

  35. Harri, I’ll leave you to further comment on this subject, on my part nothing more need be said about your opinions on Orban.

    The insincerity of your your position regarding non ethnic European misappropriation, clientism, nepotism and corruption in central Europe is laid bare for all to see.

  36. Fair enough.

    At least for now those woman are safe.

    But I suppose at some point Brussels will soon see to that.

    😏

  37. At least for now those women are safe…

    As long as they are only being raped by their own native men all is well eh ?

  38. Colm.

    Maybe the locals are not doing it efficiently enough for Brussels?.

    They need Arabs and Africans to hurry things along, and with far more savagery.

  39. I find it obscene for anyone to judge anyone else on their religious convictions.

    Religion is a private thing between each individual and god… not the peanut gallery.

  40. As for some of the other things said here ya gotta laugh….

    Carter was and is a total idiot…. until Obama he was the worst President in 100yrs, but how he has lived the last half of his life with Habitat speaks tons towards his character even if he is an idiot.

  41. I find it obscene for anyone to judge anyone else on their religious convictions.

    Hihlighting the contempt that a supposed Christian has for one of Chrisendom’s most sacred of institutions is hardly obscene.

    Religion is a private thing between each individual and god

    Perhaps but when public affirmations are made it loses that cloak of privacy when it’s put into the public arena:

    Meanwhile, from another thread:

    Paul McMahon, on March 30th, 2018 at 1:47 PM Said:

    I am a Catholic a member of the one true Church, I am a soldier who follows the call of Hugues de Payens · Godfrey of Bouillon my life and my soul I give freely in his name.

    I never understood the purpose of such public affirmations of faith. I always found Catholicism to be a much more personal and private subtle confirmation than evangelical Christanesque declarations.

  42. I find it obscene for anyone to judge anyone else on their religious convictions.

    Hihlighting the contempt that a supposed Christian has for one of Chrisendom’s most sacred of institutions is hardly obscene.

    Religion is a private thing between each individual and god

    Perhaps but when public affirmations are made it loses that cloak of privacy when it’s put into the public arena:

    Meanwhile, from another thread:

    Paul McMahon, on March 30th, 2018 at 1:47 PM Said:

    I am a Catholic a member of the one true Church, I am a soldier who follows the call of Hugues de Payens · Godfrey of Bouillon my life and my soul I give freely in his name.

    I never understood the purpose of such public affirmations of faith. I always found Catholicism to be a much more personal and private subtle confirmation than evangelical Christanesque declarations.

  43. its very simple patty/pat profess chrisianity 1 weekend of the year, get all starry-eyed and sobby about it all, then revert to type after , back to supporting stuff clearly way out of kilter with the message/teachings/principles of Christ . total hypocrisy, which is why i stayed out of it and will continue to ..

  44. You have no idea what you’re talking about Jude…. as I said people like you and the others here have the balls to lambaste others about their faith making judgements on their lives… based on what ?

    Your diseased existences ?

    Most of you admit you don’t even believe in God let alone Jesus….

    you are a sad pathetic group

  45. Most of you admit you don’t even believe in God let alone Jesus….

    you are a sad pathetic group

    Okay Pat, is it acceptable to you as a professed Christian that another professed Christian treats one of the most sacred institutions of Christianity with absolute contempt?

    BTW, I’ve never said I don’t believe in God merely that I’ve never saw evidence or heard a convincing argument to show me it exists. I wouldn’t be as arrogant to say it doesn’t exist as I simply don’t know.

    I also believe that the historical Jesus very probably existed as a person.

  46. wate of time talking to you pat on this subject, you’re all holler and blow-hard
    consider the lamb of God and the beatitudes ? those teaching oppose your whole philosophy of life and statements om ATW. Nah you remain a pagan until i read otherwise.

  47. Carter was Smarter than any president since Richard Nixon, and he would be in the top half of all presidents in the last 50 years in performance

    Came to power at a very tough time, as the Vietnam has recently ended, and the aftermath of the Arab oil crisis, and the Iranian revolution

    He brokered a very important piece to go between Israel and Egypt that has stuck And he resolved the panama canal issue to the benefit of both countries

    Maybe not a great president, but clearly one whose reputation is steadily rising

    He never sought to cash in on his presidency, but has devoted his entire life since leaving the White House to serving the poor in America and around the world. Beat cancer at the age of ninety also. Tough, smart, good Christian man

  48. Jimmy Carter is an old man and a good man. If conservatives can’t say that, it would be best that they not talk about him.

  49. I’ve never saw evidence or heard a convincing argument to show me it exists.

    that’s why it’s called Faith

  50. Pete delivers the coup de grace.

    PVR is a nominal Christian at best, a conservative by no means whatsoever.

  51. I’m not going to change fact because he’s a nice old man.

    I’ve said Carter has lived the last half of his life as a true christian. His work with habitat for humanity can’t be tarnished.

    However he was a horrible President. Oh he brokered a peace deal between Egypt and Israel while initiating War between US and Iran while he destroyed the American Economy.

    He was one of the top 5 worse Presidents of the 2oth century.

  52. That’s why it’s called Faith

    Okay Pat, with your faith:

    Is it acceptable to you as a professed Christian that another professed Christian treats one of the most sacred institutions of Christianity with absolute contempt?

  53. “I never understood the purpose of such public affirmations of faith. I always found Catholicism to be a much more personal and private subtle confirmation than evangelical Christanesque declarations.”

    I understand where you’re coming from if you think public declarations are simple ego trips but if you read the Bible, it is in Scripture that Christians spread the Word.

  54. Mark 16:15

    And he said to them, “Go into all the world and proclaim the gospel to the whole creation.

  55. Your hatred for the EU has blinded you to logic.

    Paul.

    Good morning by the way.

    My hatred, along with my utter contempt for the EU, (by the EU, the elite at Brussels) is no more or no less than yours for Britain.

    Maybe we are both Republicans?.

  56. Those who go around proclaiming thr gospel , boasting about their faith , pushing it onto others cannot complain when others who don’t want to be bothered push back. Patrick, you claim faith is a private thing between a man and his God. Good, keep it that way then and don’t put up posts boasting about your religion and membership of the “ one true church” and then complain when others comment.

  57. Colm.

    Agit8ed I believe was also prone to preaching to us heathens on ATW.

    It still went out of one ear faster than it went in the other.

    😏

  58. Pope Francis declares “shame over the state of the world” in high security Easter address

    POPE Francis feels a sense of shame over the state of the world that future generations will inherit, he said in his Easter address that saw security increased significantly throughout Rome.

    The Pope said in his address that many should feel “shame because our generations are leaving young people a world that is fractured by divisions and war, a world devoured by selfishness” and added that people should feel “shame for having lost a sense of shame”.

    Says the Pope whilst holding a solid gold cross, surrounded by the Swiss Guard.

  59. Actually this is where , in my humble opinion, the Jews really are the superior ones. They practise their faith without pushing it onto others or proselytising to convert others. It’s a lesson Christians and Muslims can learn.

  60. Paul

    Is it acceptable to you as a professed Christian that another professed Christian treats one of the most sacred institutions of Christianity with absolute contempt?

    That’s between that person and God……

    but I frown upon it.

  61. Colm have you ever read me proselytising…. No you haven’t

    I even tend to piss other Christians off by stating the TRUTH that christians are reformed Jews.

  62. //the Jews really are the superior ones. They practise their faith without pushing it onto others or proselytising to convert others. //

    It’s nothing to do with Judaism or Jews being superior; it’s simply because Judaism isn’t a faith religion but the hereditary identity of a particular tribe.

  63. My hatred, along with my utter contempt for the EU, (by the EU, the elite at Brussels) is no more or no less than yours for Britain.

    Good afternoon H, hope all’s well.

    You seem to be trying to construct a narrative suggestting that I hate the British as a people. The other day you alleged that I was ‘probably the most anti British person on ATW’.

    This is simply untrue Harri. I have previously alluded to the great things that the Brits gave the world, the English language, Marmite and some of the world’s greatest music. Recently I replied to Colm that the Anglican tradition for me represents the best of British traits, understanding, toleration, moderation. I’m not a big fan of British colonialism and detest the policies of successive British governments in Ireland but to suggest I hate the Brits just isn’t correct which I imagine most of our impartial fellow ATW would agree with.

    However the topic here is Orban, you rightly criticise the EU and British Government whenever troughing, squander, nepotism,(hi the Nige),etc arise yet when evidence is provided which shows Orban to be involved in the same corruption a kindly veil of silence is drawn and a blind eye is turned because you agree with his anti EU rhetoric.

    That’s a contradictory double standard.

    The poetic justice here is of course that Orban himself genealogically identifies himself as ethnically Asian as opposed to European.

    But I frown upon it.

    I’d like to think so Pat.

    Would you also concede that it’s quite hypocritical for a self professed Christian to treat such a sacred Christian institution with such disrespect?

    Happy Easter Monday to all:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tmtKiGGGps

  64. This is simply untrue Harri. I have previously alluded to the great things that the Brits gave the world, the English language, Marmite and some of the world’s greatest music.

    And the World Wide Web.

    Anyway, you are correct, please allow me to rephrase, you passionately abhorred British rule, (foreign rule) over NI, and in my humble opinion, rightly so.

    I abhor Brussels rule.

    I adore Europe, I even believe a common market is a wonderful idea, to a point, I even agree with free move. But I despise Brussels, all who sailing her.

    I actually believe we need Europe, we need a common market, what we don’t need is five presidents, five vice presidents, chiefs of staff, an army of vastly overpaid living like lords faceless bureaucrats, and an actual EU army.

    I personally want absolutely no part of their elitist project.

    Again if i thought different, I would say it, but it’s plainly obvious, Brussels are beyond reform, beyond reason, and beyond redemption.

  65. //I actually believe we need Europe, //

    Two strong arguments for a united and strong EU are 1) Trump, 2) Putin.

  66. It’s your right to oppose the EU Harri as it’s others rights to support it and I have never heard anyone who is pro EU say that it doesn’t need to be reformed, (you’ll say it’s irreformable but that something that we’ll just have to agree to disagree on).

    The point I make is that you’re (correctly) in like Flint regarding political corruption, waste, clientism, nepotism and squander in both Westminster and the EU and yet when evidence of Orban engaging in the same is presented not only is it ignored but Orban is lauded.

    That’s a double standard.

  67. Two strong arguments for a united and strong EU are 1) Trump, 2) Putin.

    The solidarity was staggering, what with Juncker, Macron, and Merkel all sending good wish letters of congratulations to Putin.

    😏

  68. Paul.

    I have never made any secret of the fact, having lived in Eastern Europe, I recognise most Politicians, Police, and officials, are absolutely corrupt to the hilt.

    But if it means Brussels corrupt politicians trying their very up most to place women in harm’s way, not to mention the destruction of that nations culture. And that nations corrupt politicians trying their very best to protect their so en, and culture.

    I know what side I am on.

    Bearing in mind, again I have never made any secret of letting it be understood, ALL politicians are corrupt to the core.

    It’s a prerequisite for the job.

    And Brussels can not be reformed.

    It’s just not possible.

    All empires fail and fall.

  69. //The solidarity was staggering, what with Juncker, Macron, and Merkel all sending good wish letters of congratulations to Putin.//

    They also sent those letters to Trump; they don’t mean anything.

    But when we have two such characters on either side of us: one ruthless and intelligent and the other as dumb as cowshit, then it’s easy to make the case for a strong Europe upholding the cause of sanity in the world.

  70. Bearing in mind, again I have never made any secret of letting it be understood, ALL politicians are corrupt to the core.

    It’s a prerequisite for the job.

    So we’ll see no more lauding of the utterly corrupt Orban then?

    I have a Hungarian work colleague who explained to me that a lot of Orban’s support comes from ethnic Hungarians living for generations in Serbia that Orban granted Hungarian nationality to so what you have is large numbers of people who are voting for someone in Hungary whose policies have absolutely no effect in the country they live in.

    That’s fairly corrupt too.

  71. But when we have two such characters on either side of us: one ruthless and intelligent and the other as dumb as cowshit, then it’s easy to make the case for a strong Europe upholding the cause of sanity in the world.

    There’s a solution to that.

    Brussels, reform or fall.

  72. They also sent those letters to Trump; they don’t mean anything.

    Noel.

    Noel, I agree,nothing Juncker says means anything.

    😏

  73. I increasingly question Putin’s wisdom/intelligence

    I think that his actions are worsening Russia’s continuing decline vs China and the US.

    The west is not without blame, but his unnecessary fights in Ukraine / Estonia / Georgia are bleeding the vast country economically, diplomatically, every other way.

    Russia is a bloated military without much of an advanced economy to support it. That’s unsustainable, under his rule, there has been no improvement in that state of affairs.

  74. //I think that his actions are worsening Russia’s continuing decline vs China and the US.//

    There were some good moments in the movie last night (Red Sparrow). One was when they (the Russian secret service) spoke of the need for a strong Russia in a world that’s falling apart – moral and policial decay everywhere in the west, the refugee disaster in Europe, racial divisions in the US, a bland social-media culture among the young and everywhere widespread disenchantment with democracy.

    While their solution was to present a Russia that is strong and an upholder of conservative values; there was also the sense that they could so easily exploit this discord in the west for their own advantages; maybe ease Europe out of the American embrace and generally undermine western cohesion.

    That was always an opportunity, especially since Trump was elected, and in it Putin failed miserably. His antics in the Ukraine and the ME and recently in England can only bring the West closer to face the threat.

    Russia came out winning in Syria, true, but that will gain it little when it needs to make friends and influence people in more important places. Putin could have played the present messy situation in the West much better.

  75. Yes.

    I don’t think that there will be many future references to Putin being the grandmaster

    The world’s two largest military machines are led by men who don’t know what they’re doing.

  76. 🙂

  77. Paul.

    Labour might be Her Majestie’s opposition (unfortunately).

    But one thing they are not, is loyal.

  78. But one thing they are not, is loyal

    Not loyal to what H? The throne?

    Being a Brit Republican is a perfectly noble ideal.

  79. Not loyal to what H? The throne?

    Well, they are “Her Majestie’s” loyal opposition.

    😏

  80. I assume so Paul?.

    You are an Irish Republican, because you have absolutely no wish to be ruled by a foreign power, (Britain)

    I am a British Republican, because I have no wish to be ruled by a foreign power, (Brussels).

    I’m not too sure how you square the circle of agreeing to still being ruled by a foreign power though?.

  81. I mean a Republican in an anti Monarchial sense H.

    I’m an Irish Republican and a democrat Harri. It is the will of the Irish people that is paramount and at the very least for the foreseeable future Ireland will remain one of the most pro EU countries in the Union.

    The only foreign power ruling Ireland is Britain in her six north western counties.

  82. I’m an Irish Republican and a democrat Harri. It is the will of the Irish people that is paramount and at the very least for the foreseeable future Ireland will remain one of the most pro EU countries in the Union.

    I’m a British Republican Paul, and democratically it was the will of British people to leave the Brussels project.

    The Brussels elite had every available opportunity to reform, they refused point blank.

    I wish them all the luck in the world in their project for Federalism.

    I just want no part of it.

  83. I’m a British Republican Paul, and democratically it was the will of British people to leave the Brussels project.

    I completey accept that. As stated repeatedly, barring a vague notion of Scot’s independence the only concern I have with Brexit is the north eastern counties in Ireland and its affect on them.

    As, I said, to learn that you were a Brit Republican, (in its most literal terms of preferring a Republic to a Monarchy), was a pleasanr surprise.

  84. As for Scottish independence.

    Those Scots who might not want Independence, can thank their lucky stars the English don’t get to vote on that.

    Otherwise Independence would be upon them faster than they could ever imagine.

  85. Fair enough.

    I can’t say I’ve noticed before but that may have been oversight on my behalf.

  86. Paul.

    I have said this before on ATW.

    The so called Royal family, who by the way, are possibly the lost dysfunctional family on earth, “charge” the plebs & serfs, extortionate amounts of money to visit castles, Buckingham palace, and other taxpayer owned properties, to view priceless works of art and artefacts, which they have already paid for, and in reality, already own.

    As for Prince Charles, and his only son, William, (the other being Captain James Hewitt’s son) Harry, a bigger waste of oxygen one would be hard to d.

    But the Americans lap it all up.

    Outdoor called “Queen” signed morons,but all six EU treaties, and in reality brokeher Coronation oath, which is designed to rule by consent, she broke that solemn oath to her subject test.

    Her Majesty, is in fact, plain old Mrs Windsor, an EU citizen.

    The question must be asked ” but did she know what she was signing”?.

    Of course she did, she was the Queen of England, a once sovereign country, it’s her sole job to know.

    The once Queen of England is the foremost expert on British sovereignty.

    The only King nowadays, is…money.

  87. Outdoor called “Queen” signed morons

    Sigh…

    * Our so called Queen, signed not one.

    Who exactly invented predictive text?.

    They need to be hunted down like dogs.

  88. //As for Prince Charles, //

    Amazing to think that Charles will be 70 this year, and still hopes to become king.

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