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It looks like 2020 is about to get much worse. Reports are emerging that a UK/EU deal is done. I remain opposed on the principle that anything acceptable to the EU is unacceptable to me.

It won’t be a free trade deal. A “free trade” deal is one sheet of paper with the statement: “We will sell you anything you want to buy from us, and you will sell us anything we want to buy from you.”

This will be a 50,000 page Byzantine document, years in the making, written in opaque leagalese. Champollion wouldn’t stand a chance of deciphering it.

I just hope someone in government has an eye for detail because Boris doesn’t. He’s a happy warrior, wave-the-flag-bright-new-day cheerleader. Across the table have been cheating, filthy snakes; the dirtiest of dirty dealers that the EU could find, and that’s a nest of dirty snakes. Which is another good reason why we should just fone for a Clean Brexit. The further we are away from that sinking shop the better.

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21 thoughts on “NEVER TRUST THE TORIES

  1. lol love this rasping
    “dirty snakes” , and ” dem doirty doirty schnakes”
    ok you don’t like it petem I think we get that bit ..lol

    sorry kiddo but realpolitick dictates compromise , call it covid, call it what you want
    but projections are real, disaster is upon the nation , i’m in tier 4 now
    chill with a real ale or something

    ooh any details ?
    or is it a case of

    It’s vitally important to NOT read the Brexit deal before declaring it a sell-out/triumph

  2. It won’t be a free trade deal. A “free trade” deal is one sheet of paper with the statement: “We will sell you anything you want to buy from us, and you will sell us anything we want to buy from you.”

    Sorry Pete, there hasn’t been a “single sheet” free trade deal signed since, like forever. There’s always stuff about standards and preventing cheating by sneaky subsidies and so on. Which is all that’s happening here, but given the complexities of modern economies it consumes a lot more pages of text.

    Let’s remember that none of the pro-Brexit campaigners in 2016 campaigned for a “no deal” Brexit. Even Farage was babbling about a Norway-style arrangement and there was no clear statement that Brexit would even mean leaving either the Single Market or the Customs Union. Instead they boasted that Brexit would lead to “the easiest free trade deal in the world” and some even boasted that the EU would be by-passed as the UK would be able to sign bi-lateral deals, starting with Germany. If they had campaigned on the basis of a total break with the EU including tariffs they would have lost the referendum for sure.

    So as a Brexit supporter I hope we get what we voted for, namely a Brexit that does not blow up the entire economey, because that’s not what we were promised.

  3. there was no clear statement that Brexit would even mean leaving either the Single Market or the Customs Union

    Pete Moore was quite clear that the UK would NOT be leaving the single market.

  4. We didn’t have to leave the protectionst block. I’m glad we are. In hindsight I was too kind. The further we are away from the EU the better.

  5. The further we are away from the EU the better.

    Yes, a no-deal Brexit would be so much better. Who needs a UK car-manufacturing industry anyway? And those 20% tariffs which will wipe it out will hurt BMW just as much as UK car-buyers.

    It reminds me of Edward I at the battle of Stirling. The English soldiers had engaged with the Scots front line when the king ordered the archers to fire. A horrified noble protested: “But Sire, we’ll hit our own men!” To which the king replied: “Yes, but we’ll hit theirs too!”

  6. We’ve just had a sneak preview of how the supposed dream of shut borders would look….fricking chaos.

    These guys are like Scrooge after getting the visit from the ghost of Christmas future, if he still failed to see the issue.

  7. “The EU and UK appear close to striking a post-Brexit trade deal, with Boris Johnson briefing his cabinet on the progress of talks in Brussels. Disputes over fishing rights and future business competition rules have been the major hurdles to agreement during months of often fraught talks. But BBC political editor Laura Kuenssberg said Downing Street now seemed “very confident” of a deal. Negotiators are now thought to be thrashing out the final details. The official announcement of a deal is expected on Thursday morning.”

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-55422729

    LOL – “briefing his cabinet”. As if any of those baboons would dare to raise a voice against the Dear Leader. They will do as he tells them, because they are total “Boris” puppets who owe their jobs to loyalty to “Boris” and Brexit in that order and nothing else. And none of them have a single political principle in their heads apart from their careers, so even if they hate “the deal” they will go along with it and parrot the usual on-message bullshit to the media. And crawl as low as possible to “Boris” in the hope of keeping their jobs in the reshuffle next month.

  8. The ‘Deal’ was done long, long ago. They have just been dragging this out to give no one any chance of picking over it and seeing all the flaws.

    The Political Class and he Establishment never wanted to Leave and by God they were going to make it such that we were never going to. Alexander Johnson will be hailed in the Tory press as a hero or, someone who tried his best. None of those two descriptions are anywhere close to the truth. He is as good a liar as Heath was.

    The UK will be made to keep lock-in-step with the EU until, one day, the UK can rejoin.

    We were never going to win. We had the numbers and the arguments but we never had the power. Bit 2016 will always be one of my favourite years and at least, for a short time, I had hope of a better future.

  9. If there is a good closely aligned deal agreed today then that gives us the chance of a better future. Hopefully one where in a few years we rejoin.

  10. lol you juggernaut you
    yo this deal is a flier, Brexit ..
    wonder if EU and UK are slapping each other with herrings and mackrels ?

  11. I remain opposed on the principle that anything acceptable to the EU is unacceptable to me.

    Pete with the identity politics again, which he supposedly hates

    The Political Class and the Establishment never wanted to Leave and by God they were going to make it such that we were never going to.

    Ah yes, the mysterious, ubiquitous, non-specific, non-identifiable ‘political class’ and ‘establishment’ victimising the poor Brexiteers.

    Johnson, Rhys Mogg and the Nige are the very definition of the ‘establishment’

    We had the numbers and the arguments but we never had the power..

    You didn’t. You had lies, emotion & scare stories. If you had had the arguments the repercussions and effects of Brexit would have been drafted up and presented to the electorate to vote on, as the Good Friday Agreement was, but of course had that been the case the act of national self-harm would never have got past the post so an emotive box had to be sold to the public without them looking inside before purchase.

  12. ahh its a relief – we have white smoke
    even the hardliners like Farage caved in the end , accepting reality

  13. No Kurt, Farage and his Tory fellow-travellers will damn this deal as a total sellout, you can be sure of it.

  14. I will be very interested in seeing the details

    Some speak of a return of the UK to the EU at some point. Does anyone see that as a real possibility?

  15. The Christmas Eve Agreement will surely be compatible with the Good Friday Agreement.

    This is good news for all concerned however the detail should be interesting.

    I wouldn’t be surprised were the Nige to take full advantage to trash this in order to fulfill his personal political ambitions.

  16. Of course Nigel will trash it. He has made a lucrative career for himself whipping up damaging anti-European hostility without the slightest bit of responsibility for delivering any of his claims. Any deal opposed by him will be a better than anything that gains his approval.

  17. Farage will have a go but he’ll be flogging a dead horse. I’ll be surprised if more than 20 Tory MPs vote against it next week. The vast majority who voted for Brexit in 2016 will accept it, no doubt influenced by Johnson and his many cheer-leaders in the Tory press. They will dishonestly claim it as a five-nil win against the enemy in Brussels.

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