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How interesting.

It reminds me of Blair refusing to confirm if his children had been given the MMR vaccine or seperate shots. The silence is often all the answer we need.

So the Prime Minister’s office refuses ten times to say if he would eat GM food. This comes on the day that Owen Paterson, the Environment Secretary, claims that GM foods are safer than non-GM.

Now I don’t know either way. I don’t claim that eating GM foods will result in diseases and deformations in future years. I simply don’t know if GM foods are perfectly safe or if it’s folly to diddle with the genes in our food. I simply make my own choices in shopping. That involves organic where possible and will never include GM foods. Your own mileage may vary.

As usual, the links and connections are most important in figuring out where policy originates from.

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  1. “It reminds me of Blair refusing to confirm if his children had been given the MMR vaccine or seperate shots. The silence is often all the answer we need.”

    But we can be fairly sure he also ate genetically modified food too.
    How else can we explain his mysterious transformation from an idealistic Socialist concerned only for the masses into a money mad Capitalist concerned only for himself?

    That and the fact his poo turned a funny golden colour…

  2. Why are you obsessing with the eating habits of a stranger?

    Shurely it is a private affair.

    You want to restrict GM foods, or have government mandated warning labels on them?

    I’d imagine that all here have eaten GM food many times, knowingly or not. Esp if you’ve holidayed in America.

  3. //Why are you obsessing with the eating habits of a stranger?//

    Well, he pays for them.

    GM has saved a lot of farmers in the US. But of course it’s right that consumers are aware of what they are buying and eating. In the EU, labelling is mandatory, and that is the way it should be and the way the vast majority of people want it to be.

  4. Phantom,
    I am nervous of genetically modified food. We have yet to see what the knock on effects of these plants will be on the rest of our food crops and flowers and the creatures that live from them.

  5. I respect that position.

    But we can’t have government mandated disclosures because that is how tyranny starts.

    Letting corporates do anything they want is the cornerstone of liberty.

  6. “Post the tax returns on ATW.”

    Erm, they’re around here somewhere …

    Nowhere has there been a consumer demand for GMO. Wherever they’re found it’s because the corporatocracy has utilised state power to force it. Left to free markets, GM foods would cease to exist.

  7. There’s nothing to stop any producer of GM free bread ( or whatever ) to sell his product in the US and labeling it as GM free in a prominent way. Lots of producers do this and plenty of consumers want GM free food.

    The large Whole Foods Supermarket is moving towards full labeling on the issue


    For better or worse, most US consumers are entirely unconcerned about the issue.

  8. I’m not bothered about genetic modification of food. It merely accelerates the process of selection that humans have been practicing on crops for millenia.

  9. Ross – in what way is Monsanto’s genetic modification of corn to be compatible with its main weedkiller (Roundup) or pesticiides in its product range an acceleration of a process of selection? Its effects on those who consume it may be detrimental:


    A Comparison of the Effects of Three GM Corn Varieties on Mammalian Health

    Joël Spiroux de Vendômois1, François Roullier1, Dominique Cellier1,2, Gilles-Eric Séralini1,3 Corresponding address

    1. CRIIGEN, 40 rue Monceau, 75008 Paris, France
    2. University of Rouen LITIS EA 4108, 76821 Mont-Saint-Aignan, France
    3. University of Caen, Institute of Biology, Risk Pole CNRS, EA 2608, 14032 Caen, France

    Our analysis clearly reveals for the 3 GMOs new side effects linked with GM maize consumption, which were sex- and often dose-dependent. Effects were mostly associated with the kidney and liver, the dietary detoxifying organs, although different between the 3 GMOs. Other effects were also noticed in the heart, adrenal glands, spleen and haematopoietic system. We conclude that these data highlight signs of hepatorenal toxicity, possibly due to the new pesticides specific to each GM corn. In addition, unintended direct or indirect metabolic consequences of the genetic modification cannot be excluded.

  10. GM crops in the USA have been associated with the large decline in the iconic Monarch Butterfly. The reason is that the GM crop is immune to Roundup with the result that the fields can be saturated with weedkiller and are totally free of weeds. And milkweed is the main food of the Monarch.

    In the UK we have experienced massive declines in common birds like the starling, due to intensive farming. It is hard to see how GM crops can possibly help birdlife in any way. Less weeds will mean less insects and less food for birds.

  11. Strong points, Peter.

    Its often been that wildlife and the environment has lost out as they don’t have a measureable economic value.

    Some of the most precious things don’t have a price tag on them.

  12. ” I’m not bothered about genetic modification of food. It merely accelerates the process of selection that humans have been practicing on crops for millenia ”


    If you don’t mind me saying so that’s a daft thing to say, especially for one who I think believes in evolution. The selection and improvement of crops has always involved different existing and evolved varieties, not the tinkering with their genetic makeup in a laboratory.

  13. Here’s a useful site..

    “There are several criticisms of GM foods, including risks to both human health and to our environment. In humans, GM foods are assessed for nutritional content, toxicity levels and any allergic reactions that might occur from eating them. Of concern to the environment is the possibility that a GMO can be introduced into wild populations, with the development of pesticide-resistant insects. Possible detrimental consequences to plant and wildlife biodiversity are also under investigation.”


  14. I feel that we should start by allowing genetically modified feed stuff to be grown for cattle. I would have no objection to eating meat from such animals. If after a sufficient number of years, no genetic defects or other new problems have been observed amongst cattle, then I would be prepared to eat the genetically modified food myself.

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