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A new piece by author Paul Weston on the suppression of the demonstration in Brussels.

Police%20tenderness.jpgIt was not just the events taking place in Brussels on September 11 2007 that indicated the end of democracy in Europe. Rather, the manhandling and arrest of passive, besuited, middle aged men was simply the final statement – after a long history of incremental authoritarianism – by our ruling socialist elites that a new totalitarian order now controls an entire continent.

What took place yesterday should be viewed from several different angles. To fundamental Islam it was a great fillip to their dream of a global caliphate, to the supporters of SIOE it was not the success we had hoped for, and to the socialists it  was a comprehensive victory.

 

 

The mainstream media largely ignored the event. The few outlets that did report on it remarked only that a handful of far-right activists had been arrested at an anti-Islam demonstration. The BBC did not think such an event even warranted television coverage, relegating the story to its web site. Here in Britain, the Times, Telegraph and Mail failed to report on it at all.

Journalism appears to have no eye for a story these days. The events of yesterday were not – as the MSM have implied – simply about a few right-wing wackos with an inbuilt hatred of the religion of peace; it was far more importantly about freedom of speech, freedom of assembly, or more succinctly, democracy.

And democracy was trampled on in Brussels yesterday. In the heart of the European Union’s capital city, democracy was trashed, abused and violated. The MSM’s response, rather predictably, was to ignore it or spin it to the detriment of those who took part.

The socialists, leftists, liberals, call them what you may, will be rubbing their hands in glee today. They have silenced those who disagree with their ideology through a mixture of intimidation, smear, media blackout, and have done so in a totalitarian manner reminiscent of the Nazis or the Communists.

To put yesterdays events into perspective let us look at some unarguable facts. SIOE and Vlaams Belang are legally established movements operating within a democracy. The reason for their demonstration may not have been to the taste of our European political elites, but the gradual erosion of Europe’s culture and heritage in the face of Islamic expansion is a reality nonetheless. In a democracy, a legitimate movement with legitimate concerns should be allowed to make those grievances known in a public manner.

Brussels%20Police%209-11-07.jpgThe demonstration was banned under the mischievous pretence of provoking a violent Muslim reaction and/or its supporters were in contravention of European laws pertaining to racism and xenophobia. This ban was subsequently upheld at the appeal court.

I have read some comments suggesting that if the march was banned then it is no surprise that arrests were made. This is true, but it rather misses the point that if a differing political viewpoint can be criminalised in the Europe of 2007, then democracy is over, dead, ceased to exist, shuffled of this mortal coil. Europe is an ex-democracy.

The argument that one cannot legally protest may carry some weight – in certain instances – in a democracy. A demonstration in favour of executing homosexuals, Jews and adulterous women should have arguments against it, but I do not think it should necessarily be banned. If such truly revolting people wish to draw attention to themselves, then so be it. Forewarned is forearmed, as they say.

This was not the case yesterday. Vlaams Belang and SIOE exist to counter such barbarous ideology. That the socialist elites find such an idea repugnant speaks volumes about their own moral consciousness, but repugnant ideas do not a justified ban make. The demonstration was banned because our rulers do not like our political viewpoint. No more and no less. This should not happen in a democracy and cannot possibly be upheld in a court of law unless that court is totalitarian in nature.

But happen it did. Ergo, Europe is no longer democratic. One cannot have partial freedom of expression. It is all or nothing, pace Voltaire. It is the primary function of a democracy and without it no society can be called democratic.

I know I am repeating myself, but I cannot make this point strongly enough: A legitimate movement with a legitimate grievance was illegitimately but legally banned by a politically motivated mayor and a politically motivated court, after which black clad, politicised state enforcers, armed with water cannons, batons and dogs, arrested and dispersed legitimate demonstrators because they held a differing political viewpoint.

This was the story that our lazy, ineffectual MSM missed yesterday. Equipped with helicopters, cameras, satellite feeds, reporters and a vast network of contacts they missed the emergence of a totalitarian Europe. And make no mistake about it, the events leading up to, and of, yesterday, was just that. On September 11th 2007 Europe became a totalitarian dictatorship.

Sensationalist you think? Can one really argue that Europe, run by unelected Marxists and ex-Communists, has failed to make fully clear their determination to disallow, by any means possible, democratic opposition to their vision of some unprecedented multicultural utopia in their unholy alliance with Islam, a political creed which hates Western civilisation almost as much as our rulers themselves?

To any liberal readers who think this is one of my usual right wing rants, consider the following press release statement from socialist Terry Davis, the Secretary General of The Council of Europe:

It is very important to remember that the freedom of assembly and expression can be restricted to protect the rights and freedoms of others, including the freedom of thought, conscience and religion. This applies to everyone in Europe including the millions of Europeans of Islamic faith, who were the main target of today’s shameful display of bigotry and intolerance.”

In other words, lie back and think of Europe as Islamisation proceeds apace. If you try to resist, via your Citizens Human Rights, we will criminalize you. You may only have freedom of speech as long as it fits into the caveats we have built into the constitution.

So, if we can agree that Europe is now totalitarian, where does this leave us? Well, there are dictatorships and there are dictatorships. If a peculiar interest in train timetables and invading far flung African countries was your bag, then Mussolini was a relatively benign sort of chap to rule your country. In post WW1 Germany, a political, social and economic madhouse, then even Adolf Hitler ticked a few boxes. Where it led them however, we know only too well.

Both of the aforementioned dictators had mass support (not majority, but mass nevertheless) from their indigenous people, both rebuilt their economies before total power went to their heads, and both acted, initially, in the interests of their historical culture, heritage and people. When I say that at least they started out on the right foot, I am in no way defending them. I simply point out the facts.

The reason for doing so will become apparent. If Islam, (or radical Islam if you are reality deficient) were compared to any previous ideology, then it could only be compared to the Nazis. Both wished/wish to establish a global empire, eradicate the Jews, eradicate the homosexuals, thought women fit only for bearing children, cooking and church, brooked no opposition to their ideology, indeed seemed to positively enjoy murdering it’s apostates, and worshipped The Glorious Leader, be he the Fuhrer or the Prophet.

And into that pot we can add Communism, built on the ideal of supposed egalitarianism, it resulted in genocide, economic failure and environmental, social and spiritual devastation.

Now, to the well-balanced mind, such ideologies should be avoided like the plague, but the liberal/left appear to have embraced them both. The European Union is run by Communist manqué’s and they are utilising Europe’s new Nazi Party, Islam, to further their dream of absolute power.


Europeans today however are not living in the shattered economies and societies that bought Hitler and Mussolini to power. We live in unprecedented wealth and comfort; we have no need of totalitarianism to solve our economic problems and we certainly have no need for a totalitarian regime to actively bring about future social problems.

Our situation today is almost mind boggling in its perversity. A peaceful – a peace that came at the expense of millions of dead – society that wishes only to be left alone, has had an alien culture undemocratically inflicted upon us and an alien culture that is unrepentantly vociferous in its call for our overthrow and subjugation.

This culture of Islam – Europe’s new Nazi party – is growing as we are shrinking and poses a clear and present danger to our children and grandchildren. It is genocidal in its ambitions, which effectively means that indigenous Europeans would, if Islam came to power, be the new Jews of Hitler’s Germany. Each and every one of us; homosexual and heterosexual, feminist and housewife, Jew, Catholic, Protestant, agnostic or atheist, conservative or liberal, black or white.

And they are aided and abetted by Europe’s new Communists – albeit with a love of capitalist money in their own pockets – the European Union and their apparatchiks, who outlaw public displays of unease about our children’s future via totalitarian means.

Has it really come to this? The devils pact of Islamism and Communism are now the dictatorial rulers of Europe? Hitler, Lenin, Stalin and Mussolini were guilty of not only destroying the lives of their enemies; they ultimately destroyed those they purported to represent. Europeans are now faced with the astonishing and terrifying prospect of being dictatorially controlled as an enemy of the state, not it’s friend, and when we see what totalitarian regimes do to their friends, let alone their enemies, we should be extremely, if not obsessively, concerned.

So what can we do? Firstly, we must play our rulers at their own game. The EU is obsessed with the varied doctrines of tolerance, feminism, racial prejudice, equality and Human Rights, and this is how we must fight them if we are to make any discernable difference to our future.

I have spoken to many people who feel that “Stop The Islamisation Of Europe” is a provocative banner that smacks of racial/religious intolerance. They are foolish and naive, but they are probably in the majority in our brainwashed isles. We must appeal to the majority.

If European socialist leaders can ban a demonstration on the grounds of racism and xenophobia, then we will have to adjust to the fact that if such marches go ahead, they will receive little public support, and should therefore be discontinued.

Demonstrations should not take place on any September 11th’s and certainly not on weekdays, firstly to counteract any bans, and secondly to attract more numbers.

The next demonstration should be organised by a movement called “For A Democratic Europe” or something along those lines. Its primary aim should be about freedom of speech and no mention should be made in advance of Islam. On the day, under the name of free speech, the supporters could carry banners reading “Democracy Not Theocracy” – “No To Honour Killings” – “We Disagree With Colonisation Everywhere” – “Is The EU Totalitarian” – “Free Speech For Europeans” – “Equal Rights For Muslim Women” – “Homosexual Rights Before Religion” etc etc.

What happened yesterday played into the totalitarian’s hands. Vlaams Belang should not have been in attendance, not because they are of the evil right, but because they have already been tainted by the liberal media. Also, SIOE’s banner and ideology was used against us, causing both the ban and a cleverly worded threat of retaliatory violence, which put many people off. Or at least I can only hope that was the reason for the low turnout.

This is not some liberal, non-confrontational desire to dilute our message. We must get our message out and this is the only way of doing it. I submit the idea of such a feeble demonstration for two reasons. Firstly, if we can advance our cause through mass demonstrations that circumnavigate the EU dictators then that is at least a start.

If we cannot, and I suspect that we cannot, then we will know where we stand. The era of men in suits debating our future will have come to a close. We will be alone, abandoned by our traditional leaders and without a new leader of our own. But that is easily remedied. Once we know what we need to do, then we will do it and until we are forced to admit that this is our final recourse, it will be one we ignore. When the written word, speech and the democratic process can no longer be relied upon to bring about change, then words will be replaced with physical deeds.

We didn’t start this, but by sheer weight of numbers we can finish it. As of yesterday, European politics was bought down to the level of the Reds V the Brownshirts. There are no Brownshirts as yet, but there are potentially millions of us. Standing in our way are a few thousand socialists, who, not known for their bravery, will become even fewer when they realise what they have unleashed against themselves.

Do these socialist lunatics have any idea of our violent history? They appear to betting that we will not fight for territory, religion or culture. On this they are possibly right, but we will, surely, fight for our children. The idea that a continent of half a billion people will allow a handful of Communist manqué’s, in alliance with a very small minority (today) of bearded Nazis, to dictatorially browbeat us into submission, when we have the unarguable knowledge that our failure to retaliate will wreak destruction upon our children and grandchildren is simply too fantastical to possibly be true.

Isn’t it?

 

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Comment by Mr Smith: What kind of a future do you want? One that Rage Boy and pals want, or a free and happy one where Europe can be European and Britain British?

 

 

 

Image of Rage Boy taken from Google searches, image of small child from the ever-excellent LifeSite, who also cover this story. 

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62 thoughts on “Paul Weston – Democratic Europe R.I.P.

  1. "And yet SF / IRA are allowed to parade around glorifying terror without hindrance…."

    But isn’t SF also a legal party taking part in a democracy (of sorts)?

    "There are no Brownshirts as yet, but there are potentially millions of us. Standing in our way are a few thousand socialists, who, not known for their bravery, will become even fewer when they realise what they have unleashed against themselves."

    That is an extremely dodgy statement.

  2. There are many people who are concerned about the demographic situation who don’t believe starting a race war is the answer.

    the future belongs to those who have children. White Europeans have effectively decided to go out of business. You can’t blame the immigrants for that. 200,000 abortion in Britain per year on average over 30 years. There’s six million missing Britons right there.

    It’s the same all over Europe. If we are determined to continue on the road to extinction then we should at least avoid antagonising the successor culture.

    It was news to me to find out that the Mayor of Brussels who banned the march is part of a ruling socialist party majority in the city. 10 of the 17 members of that majority are Muslim.

  3. Oh tut tut Henry, you can come up with better stuff than this?
    If the ’94’ referes to your age, well, fair enough, you have nothing to lose in not antagonising the "successor culture", but bare in mind that many jews in 1930s germany had your opinion, and many prominent jews actually joined the national socialists in order not to antagonise the authorities, in the hope of getting decent treatment.
    A fat lot of good it did THEM…….!

  4. >>White Europeans have effectively decided to go out of business. You can’t blame the immigrants for that. 200,000 abortion in Britain per year on average over 30 years. There’s six million missing Britons right there.<<

    If it’s any comfort for you, Henry, I’m sure some of that six million were blacks, any maybe some even Arabs!

  5. "As of yesterday, European politics was bought down to the level of the Reds V the Brownshirts. There are no Brownshirts as yet, but there are potentially millions of us. Standing in our way are a few thousand socialists, who, not known for their bravery, will become even fewer when they realise what they have unleashed against themselves."

    And once again Mr Weston takes a perfectly valid viewpoint and manages to state it in the most crass and idiotic manner imaginable. Brownshirts?!? For crying out loud Paul, next time engage brain before hitting the ‘Post’ button please.

  6. Weren’t the brownshirts what they called the SA, who were suppressed during the "night of the long knives" because of their socialist leanings and their leader, Ernst Roehm’s homosexuality?

    Paul might want to try a personal ad, if he’s looking for people that fit this particular bill.

  7. >>Paul might want to try a personal ad, if he’s looking for people that fit this particular bill.<<

    LOL!

  8. "And once again Mr Weston takes a perfectly valid viewpoint and manages to state it in the most crass and idiotic manner imaginable."

    The Brownshirts comment was utterly bizarre, who on earth identifies a cause they wish to promote with them? It’s like Godwin’s Law in reverse.

  9. In fairness the ‘Brownshirts’ comment and some hyperbole aside quite a lot of interesting information was in that, particularly the pathetic, supine statement by Terry Davis of the Council of Europe. The fact that someone in such a senior position is willing to come out unambiguously against free speech is disgusting.

  10. A valid argument about the changing demographic and politican nature of Europe is wrecked by the shameful urge for native Europeans to embrace ‘brownshirt’ ideology and behaviour

  11. >>The Brownshirts comment was utterly bizarre,<<

    Yes, Ross.
    Either he’s slowly getting around to the point he always really wanted to make
    (this is supported by such sentences as "We will be alone, abandoned by our traditional leaders and without a new leader of our own. But that is easily remedied."
    – So, all together now: EIN VOLK, EIN REICH, EIN WESTON !)

    or he sampled too much of the, admittedly very tempting, Belgian beer
    (this interpretation is supported by such syntactic and logical messes as "Once we know what we need to do, then we will do it and until we are forced to admit that this is our final recourse, it will be one we ignore."! – which is worthy of Rumsfeld at his best)

  12. Rene Magritte, the famous Belgian surrealist, never painted a picture that was as surreal as Mr. Weston’s article. In order to combat alleged fascist encroachment we must resort to the facisism of the brownshirts? Thanks, but no thanks.

  13. Henry,

    "the future belongs to those who have children."

    That was tried in Ireland and it didn’t work.

    "200,000 abortion in Britain per year on average over 30 years. There’s six million missing Britons right there."

    Millions more lost to the modern notion that rape is a crime. Billions of Britons lost to masturbation! No wonder the sun set on the empire.

    (Not that there is actually a shortage of Britons.)

  14. Noel, is the only thing you find disturbing in the article his "brownshirt" comment and the fact that he states he would like to see new political leadership?

    Doesn’t any of the serious information he’s written about bother you at all? Or do you think Europe is just fine and this is all Chicken Little, over the top ranting?

  15. Daphne

    Can you not see how the Brownshirts comment ruins the article. He’s asking for the current situation to be replaced with something even more horrific.

  16. >>Noel, is the only thing you find disturbing in the article his "brownshirt" comment<<

    Daphne, in the article I don’t find anything disturbing at all. The "brownshirt" comment was simply the bit I found most laughable, although there was strong competition.

    >>or do you think Europe is just fine and this is all Chicken Little, over the top ranting?<<

    Daphne, I hereby invite you and yours to visit me in Europe. Within 3-hours drive of my house there are five countries you can visit, where you will be able to see for yourself that Weston’s talk of the "new totalitarian order" is totall bullshit and could not be further from the truth.
    (but you can also be a spoilsport and work that out for yourself without leaving home just from what the Smith-Weston Axis says itself, i.e. the usual far-right hysterical trash:

    1: Europe is falling apart through social chaos and individual lack of discipline, politicians without any backbone, etc. etc.

    and

    2. Europe is alredy a totalitarian state with no individual freedom.

  17. I think he was mad as Hell when he wrote this and wasn’t thinking in PC terms. (I would have preferred Marines, but I didn’t get to edit) I would bet that term came to mind as a group that fiercely fought off the communists. I seriously doubt he wants Brownshirts running Europe or GB. That would kind of defeat his arguement for political freedom and democracy, wouldn’t it? I’m giving Mr. Weston the benefit of the doubt based on his prior writings and positions.

    So if he goes back and erases that objectionable part, do you think he has some valid opinions?

  18. Daphne

    He doesn’t just throw in the term Brownshirts, he carefully mentions the divide between Reds and Brownshirts which as I’m sure you know comes from 1930’s Germany and makes clear his desire to see a new army of brownshirts arise in modern Europe. The Brownshirts were not by any stretch of the imagination defenders of democracy from communism. They were fascist thugs who existed to terrorise Jews , racial minorities and anyone who got in the way of their desire for totalitarian control.

    There are clearly political problems here in Europe with immigration , arrogant political bureacracy and increasingly fractional societies but as Noel correctly points out we aren’t by any stretch of the imagination plunging into totalitarianism. Suggesting or agreeing so is as hyperbolic as the Bush = Hitler diatribes which you have rightly attacked over in the US.

  19. "Weren’t the brownshirts what they called the SA, who were suppressed during the "night of the long knives" because of their socialist leanings"

    Yes they were and bizarrely we have managed to hit yet another topic my daughter and I have covered in the last few days. Weird.

  20. "There are clearly political problems here in Europe with immigration , arrogant political bureacracy and increasingly fractional societies but as Noel correctly points out we aren’t by any stretch of the imagination plunging into totalitarianism."

    Nope, we are sleepwalking into it. READ THE TREATY. Bet you havent yet have you?

  21. While on the topic of this colour:

    When Sir Francis Drake was interrupted in a game of bowls to be informed of a massive armada coming up the channel, he was reputed to have said:
    "forget about my brown shirt, just bring me my brown trousers!"

  22. Thanks for the invite Noel. 🙂

    I think you don’t find anything disturbing because you are very liberal and so you accept the things he finds objectionable as good and normal.

    It’s very true that my opinions about Europe are mostly shaped by news, opinion articles, and blogs. A small portion of my opinions come from my discussions with European expats in my neighborhood and talking with you, Colm, and others. I freely admit that I can’t really know what it’s like over in your corner of the world. There are limitations in my understanding.

    I’m not sure that I believe Europe is falling apart and under totalitarian rule, but I have come to think that you are pushing the envelope of Socialism towards a much harsher and more controlling form of government. It is not a political system I would want to live under.

  23. The left used to shout ‘fascist’ at The Tories in the eighties, and now the Right are shouting ‘fascist’ at the left leaning political culture they dislike. Plus ca Change and all that.

  24. Has anyone else noticed that almost every thread contains some reference to Nazis and Jews?

    Ya’ll are obsessed with this topic.

  25. Daphne

    If there is any topic that is the most frequent source of obsessive comment here on ATW it’s – whisper it quitely – The M*****S

  26. The Manques? Mahons? Martinis? Ohhhh,,,Muslims. 🙂

    Well, they do seem to make the news quite frequently. It would be rude of us to ignore them.

  27. >>you are pushing the envelope of Socialism towards a much harsher and more controlling form of government. It is not a political system I would want to live under.<<

    Daphne, are you serious?

    You seem to be quite comfortable living under a government that allows, amonst other things,

    – indefinite detention without trial

    – law enforcement officers to search a home or business without the owner’s or the occupant’s permission or even knowledge

    – eavesdropping on telephone and email messages and even searches of medical and financial records, all without the need for a court order.

    I can’t think of any western country apart from the USA that would try to get away with those kinds of totalitarian antics, certainly no European country with a constitution (i.e. most of them).

    In fact, Daphne, I seem to remember you actaully VOTED for the very leaders who have introduced into your country this "harsher and more controlling form of government", which makes your fears for our continent all the more bewildering.

    (although your admission that you get a lot of your info from opinion articles and blogs does explain it somewhat).

  28. Talking of Muslims Daphne this item I read on another website caught my eye. I know it’s not meant to be funny but it just seemed so bizarre it made me laugh.

    "Muslim terrorist leaders threatened to forcibly convert Britney Spears and Madonna to Islam and warned if they resist, their heads would be cut off for "spreading Satanic culture," according to a new book released today."

    As for Mahons, he’s probably down the pun getting as many drinking nights in as he can before he’s knee deep in nappies (diapers as y’all refer to them).

  29. Colm: "If there is any topic that is the most frequent source of obsessive comment here on ATW it’s – whisper it quitely – The M*****S "

    Daphne, "Mahons?"

    Brilliant!

    Colm, "down the pun" was good enough!

  30. We actually take the threat of home grown terrorism seriously Noel. We are at war with islamofascists, and they are living in our midst. I think the government needs some leeway to catch them.

    If listening to overseas phone calls or entering private property with just cause works – do it.

    As far as Gitmo, if you’ve read my previous comments, you already know I have disagreements about the constitutionality of those detainments. I think that could have been handled better/differently.

    Did you miss the twin towers footage on Tuesday? Don’t you read the news? These people have no problem blowing up your children’s school, your place of work, your bus ride home.

    To equate Europes slow slide into a griplock, nanny state form of government with a few neccesary anti-terrorist (life saving) policies is absurd. That Europe won’t take these self preserving measures means we’ll see more Scotland Airport attacks in your world, and the next time the bombs might work. Your intelligence had no clue about those terrorists.

    Damn right we voted for that. Ya’ll may be smug in your ancient European superiority, hats off to you! We’ll be happy to keep our children alive and put some muderering terrorists in prison.

  31. Colm, maybe the islamists have a couple of good ideas. Wonder how the girls took it?

    I have to leave now, 20 Blueshirts (Cub Scouts) are about to descend on my house and I must load the table with snacks and fill up my secret booze cup.

  32. Daphne

    Someone on that same site commented "If Britney Spears was beheaded would it affect her I.Q"

    Hope you manage to control those blueshirts, and enjoy a few tequilas .

    have a good evening.

  33. I’m not sure how many of you liberal types actually read the body of the articles from which you subsequently gain so much childish enjoyment in mocking.

    If you watch the youtube video at the beginning of this article, you will see non-violent men in suits being aggressively arrested by crop haired youths in paramilitary uniforms.

    This is because their political views are at odds with the rulers.

    These rulers are totalitarian, as should be obvious in their attitude that free speech is only permissable as long as they are sympathetic to it.

    If middle aged men in suits are unable to democratically protest then we have two options.

    1. We go home, curl up in a ball and accept that we cannot compete with the paramilitary police (bussed in incidentally from outside brussels, the local police could not be trusted to behave in a sufficiently brutal manner)

    2. We form our own paramilitary groups with which to resist.

    If there is a third option I am all ears, put petals in their gun muzzles perhaps? Please explain what one does when democratic rights are removed by force.

    There are many references to the brownshirts here, alluding that this what I wish to see.

    You know what really want? I want to mow my lawn, make a living, vote for a political party that looks after the population to the best of their ability with the minimum of interference, grow old gracefully, retire and watch my children and grandchildren live the best quality lives they are able.

    Unfortunately, that has been taken away from me.

    In 2050, a child born today would be exactly my age.

    Britain and Europe, if nothing changes, will be unrecognisable by that point, and it will be just as bad for my children as it will be for the children of liberals.

    If men in suits were able to stop this from happening I would be very happy.

    Men is suits though appear to be wrestled to the ground and led away, I don’t think they will be able to do what i wish them to do.

    As a result, younger, violent men will step in. These are the brownshirts you appear to find so ludicrous.

    Or perhaps we engage in "workshops" with the socialists and radical Muslims, engage in "dialogue" arrive at mutual "concessions" and work for world peace despite the fact that man has been at war with man for it’s entire history.

    I sometimes think that you deluded liberal types will only recognise catastrophe when your children are torn from your arms at the railroad head by the concentration camp.

    In 1920’s Berlin the Communists were forging ahead, Hitler and his brownshirts opposed them.

    In Europe, 2007, the socialists are forging ahead, and they appear to actively encourage the growth of islam.

    Who will oppose them? The equivalent of Hitler’s brownshirts. No one else can, as should be obvious by the video in this article.

    This is not of my making but I am not so infantile as to be blind to the outcome.

    We submit or we fight.

    In 1939, after years of appeasement, Britain sent out it’s "Khaki" shirts to fight against evil.

    If we cannot find some khaki, brown, blue, indigo shirts to fight our new evil, then you had better start praying that your submission will be a happy one.

    If you think this is alarmist, it is only because you do not see the threat.

    But, put yourself in my position, I percieve Islam to be a very real threat, not today, but certainly by 2025, definitely by 2050. How do you propose to resist this if you cannot do it democratically?

    As I said earlier, I would far rather mow my lawn.

  34. Paul,

    I suggest you go mow your lawn. Probably the better option than forming a paramilitary group based on the SA.

  35. We actually take the threat of home grown terrorism seriously […]. We are at war with islamofascists, and they are living in our midst.I think the government needs some leeway to catch them.

    daphne,

    hows that going then?

    whats the current rate of conviction?

    i think its about time you seriously questioned whether these new measures have had any positive effect when it comes to actually capturing terrorists.

  36. RC

    Do you admit there is a threat to our way of life, or more pertinantly to our children and grandchildrens way of life?

    If the answer is yes, then please explain what you think we can do.

  37. They caught one today, and a couple last week DT.

    It’s working. Our airports haven’t been hit by flaming mo’s. You need a reality check, if you think terrorists aren’t serious about killing your butt.

    <stopped in for a break from boyscout bedlam>

  38. Paul,

    you use the suppression of this particular demo as if it’s some kind of watershed. In fact governments have routinely suppressed demos and used bootboy tactics for longer than anyone can remember. Perhaps the Peterloo massacre is worth mentioning. My father attended a rally opposing the Suez invasion, which involved police on horses riding people down, and I experienced something similar opposing a tory criminal justice bill a good fifteen years ago. If you read the threads on the other postings related to this demo, you will find that I support the right of these people to free speech and their demonstration, although I criticised the Fulham reactionary for whinging about muslims in the title of the piece.

    I don’t share your views of muslims. Since school I have had friends who are muslim and I’ve even lived in the Middle East for a time, albeit not very long. So whenever I’m exhorted to rise against them, it leaves me unmoved. I knew an Iraqi ex-officer. I never met a man in my life that I had such an immediate respect for. These people are my brothers and sisters, made in the image of God, the same as me. I don’t hate them or fear them.

    I am no fan of the EU, this will be clear if you review my comments on these matters, but I don’t share Pete Moore’s reverence for the British Constitution, which I think is nailed by Thomas Paine in "Common Sense", written in 1776. I, naturally, do not want to see sharia law ruling over me, but I think you exaggerate out of all proportion the likelihood of this happening. Tomorrow night I may visit Croydon for a drink, and I can assure you the Ayatollah’s morality squad wouldn’t stand a chance after nine o’clock.

    The question of immigration is important, I wouldn’t deny that. The same question affects America right now. Open borders and mass migration, I believe, is in the interests of the elite. National sovereignty is a barrier to the global economy, at least as seen by the few who sit atop the financial pyramid, and if you want to look for who to blame you should follow the money all the way to these people.

  39. I am sure that there are many commentors who disagree with you, Mr. Smith. I don’t have the energy or time to read them all, but I agree with you wholeheartedly.

    We may not like what some people have to say, it may offend us, but I defend their right to say it. I have had to deal with KKK marches in West Chester and hated it. Would I have them banned from voicing their disgusting ideology? Absolutely not. If they are banned, then that means that someday I can be banned from voicing my opinion or belief.

    No matter what you do – the moslems are going to be offended. They have to deal with it in a peaceable manner, in America atleast.

  40. Thanks RC

    I tend not to look at events of today, rather a few years down the line.

    I too have some Muslim friends, none radical, but they mostly agree that the radical element, supported by 40% of British Muslims, wishes to dominate us at some point this century.

    Demographics suggest this will happen before 2050.

    hence my concern, especially when the EU promotes them whilst acting dictatorially.

    In 1939 many Europeans had Japanese and German friends, we still had to fight them.

    I don’t believe wars have ceased in Europe, and this is where I see the next one coming from.

    But, if you were hypothetically to agree this is the case, what do you propose we do?

    My invocation of brownshirts is simply there because if our democratic means of redress, or argument, are taken away from us, what other choice do we have?

    I would be interested in your reply to such a hypothetical situation.

  41. My invocation of brownshirts is simply there because if our democratic means of redress, or argument, are taken away from us, what other choice do we have?/i>

    paul, you are indirectly coming round to an understanding of what these terror laws are really about.

    and its got sod all to do with muslims.

  42. Paul,

    I really don’t know how to answer you. I don’t have a pan-European viewpoint. One (among many) reasons I do not hold with the EU is that I don’t want to have to cross the sea to protest against laws imposed on my country.

    I believe in national sovereignty, because this is about as big as a state should be allowed to become.

    Belgium’s problem of immigration is for Belgium to decide, and likewise our own.

  43. DT – The German terrorists they just caught – the tip came from the US government. That awful surveillance program that violates "civil rights" just saved a lot of innocent lives. Give me a break and get your heads out of the sand. There are islamists that actively want to kill you.

  44. Richard, stop sounding so demented, damnit. I am quickly losing respect (of which I had a tremendous amount) for you and my worry level is increasing by the day. Get a grip.

  45. Daphne,

    I’ve said a number of things here, and I’m not sure what you think is demented.

    My guess would be my reference to "the elite". What’s controversial? Big business wants globalism, that’s why factories close in America and open in China, and why they’re happy with an open border because it drives down wages. It’s not crazy to realise that the interests of David Rockefeller are not the same as a blue collar worker. One of them is enthusiastic for a North American Union – can you guess which?

    The only other thing you may object to is my remark about not hating or fearing muslims, who are made in the image of God the same as you or I. Take it literally or take it figuratively, we’re all homo sapiens.

  46. The German terrorists they just caught – the tip came from the US government. That awful surveillance program that violates "civil rights" just saved a lot of innocent lives. Give me a break and get your heads out of the sand. There are islamists that actively want to kill you.

    computer says no. Infact computer says thats a lie

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