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So the  peaceful ‘Protest’ against alleged white police brutality towards black people goes nationwide in America. Fair enough, if these guys want to protest, that is their undoubted right.

But it seems rather strange, to this obsever at least, that protests against violence turns into violence themselves.

Seems to me that what they threaten is ‘if we don’t get what we want, Whitey is gonna’ see much more of our violence. Not too many observers point out that both Grand Juries’ were from both black and white communities, and they considered all the evidence over many days; and still they refused to indict either officer.

The protests have developed into not so much ‘Hands up, don’t shoot’ as ‘We want Whitey down, and we want it now; and to hell with the Law’!

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53 thoughts on “Strange ways of peaceful protesting

  1. Mike,

    It seems that I am not alone in attempting to make the point that ‘two wrongs do not make a right’. In fact where colour, racism or even nationalism are concerned it usually makes things far worse and reduces the prospects of a peaceful solution.

    That at present we have globally, some prime examples of all three would suggest that we are in for a lengthy period of strife, where historically the answer has invariably been outright warfare. The current ‘tit-for-tatting’ while appealing to the politicians, has never solved anything in the long term.

  2. In fact where colour, racism or even nationalism are concerned it usually makes things far worse and reduces the prospects of a peaceful solution.

    Why don’t we just all blend together into a coffee-coloured, patois-speaking nothingness with an IQ of about 80? There – that will be progress. We’ll all be the same.

  3. Allan,

    Trust you to come up with the simplest and most infantile remark. You and our politicians seem to have a lot in common, jumping on the first thought that crosses your minds.

    We seem to have solved the problem at the ‘tribal’ level, now all we need is a broadminded leadership with a small degree of intellect, then perhaps we can solve the problem on a more national level, where our interests aren’t so easily and cheaply traded for reasons of personal political ego.

  4. Just as with coppers, ‘when you need one, there are none to be seen, when you don’t need one they are everywhere!…

  5. Paul McMahon, on December 8th, 2014 at 5:42 PM Said:
    Do you believe that Jews have a higher than average IQ Allan?

    Average as related to whom, Paul?

  6. Most protesting in the NYC has been relatively peaceful from what I can tell. I’ve been away and expected to come back to a bit of a mess. Eric Garner didn’t live too far me…those storefronts you see are within walking distance from my house…though I seldom have reason to walk down the hill in that direction. The video of the cop(s) taking him down and choking him to death made/makes me sick. I hope the internal affairs’ and feds’ investigations provide more insight and, if proper, correct sanctions. It’s telling that right after the video was released, Bratton said police were already scheduled for re-training.

  7. Paul – you wrote of people whom I would presumably describe as white non-jews of European descent, but specifically worded as not to be YOUR description. Anyway, the answer is no:

    The Myth of American Meritocracy

    American Jews are certainly a high-ability population, but the innate advantage they have over other high-ability white populations is probably far smaller than is widely believed.

    This conclusion is supported by the General Social Survey (GSS), an online dataset of tens of thousands of American survey responses from the last forty years which includes the Wordsum vocabulary test, a very useful IQ proxy correlating at 0.71. Converted into the corresponding IQ scores, the Wordsum-IQ of Jews is indeed quite high at 109. But Americans of English, Welsh, Scottish, Swedish, and Catholic Irish ancestry also have fairly high mean IQs of 104 or above, and their combined populations outnumber Jews by almost 15-to-1, implying that they would totally dominate the upper reaches of the white American ability distribution, even if we excluded the remaining two-thirds of all American whites, many of whose IQs are also fairly high. Furthermore, all these groups are far less highly urbanized or affluent than Jews,67 probably indicating that their scores are still artificially depressed to some extent. We should also remember that Jewish intellectual performance tends to be quite skewed, being exceptionally strong in the verbal subcomponent, much lower in math, and completely mediocre in visuospatial ability; thus, a completely verbal-oriented test such as Wordsum would actually tend to exaggerate Jewish IQ.

    Which means that in the technical spheres – engineering, maths, physics, their efforts are grossly over-stated taking the fraud Einstein as an example. Even Einstein himself admitted that Tesla was the most gifted scientist of all time, at that time.

  8. Interesting, given your opinions on the financial elite, that you use a highly speculative blog entry full of probabilities and written by someone who worked in the banking / finance sector as your supporting evidence.

    However, surely to collectively concoct a plan to eliminate the white race and then angle yourself into the upper echelons of the arts, science, cinema, finance etc in order to execute that plan necessitates collective above average thinking?

  9. Yes – the fraud Einstein:

    But for those who don’t know, in physics:

    Einstein’s 4D spacetime is named “MINKOWSKI SPACETIME” after it’s discover Hermann Minkowski.

    Einstein’s coordinate transformations between observers is called a “LORENTZ TRANSFORMATION” after Hendrik Lorentz.

    Einstein’s entire set of transformations in spacetime is called the “POINCARE GROUP” after Henry Poincare.

    That being said, Einstein DID play an important role in fixing the conceptual errors leading to Special Relativity. He was one of many central figures crucial to the development of that theory. Unfortunately, the media promotes him as the sole inventor.

    The case for General Relativity is compelling. It looks like Einstein actually plagiarized Hilbert 100% in terms of mathematical formulation of theory. It looks like Hilbert used the conceptual framework offered by Einstein to develop the full mathematical formulation of the theory.

    The most important sentence in the summary above is:

    Unfortunately, the media promotes him as the sole inventor.

    Now who own the media?

    For clarification, there are three great physicists: Tesla, Maxwell and Newton, the first being the greatest of all. None of them are jewish and all of them are white, although there are certainly great physicists who are jews.

  10. Ross, Phantom – you’ll be telling me that the ether doesn’t exist as well as Einstein being an original genius 🙂

  11. However, surely to collectively concoct a plan to eliminate the white race and then angle yourself into the upper echelons of the arts, science, cinema, finance etc in order to execute that plan necessitates collective above average thinking?

    Strangely enough Paul, you fail to challenge the arguments put in the linked article. And I’m sure that we’ve been through this before, but we’ll do it again nonetheless. Organised jewry doesn’t conspire to destroy its host any more than cancer cells conspire to kill theirs: both are biologically driven. Jews who have the genes which drive them to destroy their host organise to do so, hence ‘organised jewry’. Those ‘jews’ who don’t wish to destroy the host don’t organise in opposition and really aren’t jews anyway because to be a jew is to seek the destruction of the host population.

    In every country in the white world, jews are driving the immigration of he 3rd-world into white countries. They’ve realised from previous failures that their best weapon is the bio-weapon, and that is miscegenation of white women with black men. The result will be non-white – but not for Israel.

    http://www.adl.org/press-center/press-releases/civil-rights/adl-welcomes-president-obama-executive-action-immigration.html

    New York, NY, November 20, 2014 … The Anti-Defamation League (ADL) today welcomed President Obama’s executive action on immigration, calling it “an important step toward fixing our nation’s broken immigration system.”

    The president’s executive action follows a 2012 measure to provide relief from deportation for immigrants brought to the United States as children, which ADL supported. The League has long advocated for fair and humane immigration policies and has helped expose the anti-immigrant bigotry and hatred that has been an undercurrent of the immigration debate in the past few years.

    Now check the ADL’s views on Israel’s immigration policy.

  12. Phantom, on December 8th, 2014 at 11:44 PM Said:
    Allan

    So now you’re smarter than Einstein?

    I wouldn’t claim to be smarter than Einstein, but I’m definitely smarter than you. Have you ever had original thought or ideas, or understanding of things beyond what you were told? I doubt it.

  13. Allan

    Don’t be so quick to judge yourself smarter than anyone.

    You fall for every conspiracy yarn hook, line and sinker. And that type of naivete is not a sign of a Mensa member

  14. Phantom – show me which ‘conspiracy theory’ (that phrase is becoming a lampoon of itself) I’ve fallen for, and why I’m wrong. Btw, my post of 11.38pm: am I wrong there too?

  15. Start with the WTC Dick Cheney Flying Saucer Tall Tale.

    You ruined your rep for all time with that one, son.

    Cheers, time to go.

  16. But the beauty of what Phantom’s buddies are up to in forcing the price of oil and gas down to hurt Russia is that:

    http://theeconomiccollapseblog.com/archives/plummeting-oil-prices-destroy-banks-holding-trillions-commodity-derivatives

    It has been estimated that the six largest “too big to fail” banks control $3.9 trillion in commodity derivatives contracts. And a very large chunk of that amount is made up of oil derivatives.

    By the middle of next year, we could be facing a situation where many of these oil producers have locked in a price of 90 or 100 dollars a barrel on their oil but the price has fallen to about 50 dollars a barrel.

    In such a case, the losses for those on the wrong end of the derivatives contracts would be astronomical.

    That why Wall Street is persuading Congress to get taxpayers support for the $3.9trillion (that’s $3,900,000,000,000).

  17. You mock those who use wiki as a source while you here use an unknown blog as a source.

    I’ve long been concerned about derivatives, and have repeatedly called for their regulation here.

    They can serve useful functions, but they’re complex and dangerous and often poorly understood by those who use them.

  18. You mock those who use wiki as a source while you here use an unknown blog as a source.

    Show me how the ‘unknown blog’ is wrong. Is the ‘unknown blog’ factually incorrect?

  19. Sorry, not chasing you into that rats nest

    You continually choose a sites with much less credibility than wiki

    At least wiki has a review process of some kind that is continual

    You constantly refer to sites that you yoursel do not know, and where there are no editors and no review process at all. The only standard is that the views are in line with your many prejudices

  20. One of the comments from one of Allan’s fellow deep thinkers on ” The Economic Collapse ” Blog.

    WVBORN56 • 5 days ago

    It is all coming together as the Word of God predicted! Revelation 6 and 13 make the case for a one world economy. Psalm 83 and Isaiah 17 make the case for Israel’s surrounding neighbors to attack and Ezekiel 38-39 make the case for Russia, Turkey, Northern Africa and Iran to attack Israel soon after the Psalm 83 war.

    These all take place in close succession to one another and they all take place around the time the church departs in the harpazo also known as the rapture for those with trust and faith in Jesus for the forgiveness for their sins. Trust in him alone is what saves a person… not their good deeds. This is the best road to take as you prepare for an uncertain future. Blessings!

  21. Can I just say the police presence in St George (next to [the little town] where Eric Garner was strangled to death by an on-duty police officer with a history of problems) is detrimental. Enough already. We know what you can do and we don’t like it.

  22. Maybe they don’t want your merchants to be looted and burned by the Sharpton Mobs as was the case very recently in Ferguson. It wasn’t that long ago that we had the Crown Heights riots – you don’t want that to happen ever again. And the only way that will be prevented is with a visible police presence.

    That having been said, tactics need to be looked at. Yes they do.

  23. Pullllease! Have you been to St George recently?
    I had no less than 11 recorded phone calls from security companies while I was away using scare tactics. The police presence is not a boon to the few shops that operate there. Move along cops…nothing to see (or do) here…we don’t need strangulations on our streets.

  24. As a Canadian(our system is not perfect either) observing the amurican media, alive while being a black male seems to be a crime punishable by summary execution. Whether its being chocked to death for walking down the street or being shot for holding a childs BB gun in a Walmart while shopping a kill first ask questions later policy seems to be in effect

  25. EP…there is a policing issue in US. Part of it has to do with guns (and police admit this makes them feel unsafe) and part of it is a race issue (which most people deny). It’s unique to the US. Black people who were brought here as slaves and their descendants are not immigrants; they are citizens with rights the same as the rest of us. The topic of police killings (rightfully or wrongfully) is open for discussion and that’s a good thing…though I’m doubtful ATW will provide productive discussion. Bratton said procedures had to be reviewed before the cop (with a not-so-good record) strangled Eric Garner. NO MORE STRANGULATIONATIONS ON OUR STREETS.

  26. Phantom – is the section below, as taken from The Economic Collapse Blog, factually incorrect?

    It has been estimated that the six largest “too big to fail” banks control $3.9 trillion in commodity derivatives contracts. And a very large chunk of that amount is made up of oil derivatives.

    By the middle of next year, we could be facing a situation where many of these oil producers have locked in a price of 90 or 100 dollars a barrel on their oil but the price has fallen to about 50 dollars a barrel.

    In such a case, the losses for those on the wrong end of the derivatives contracts would be astronomical.

    If you had read the report instead of trying to find the most off-beat comment (that’s what you always do as a diversion from your failure to refute, isn’t it?), you would have seen that the “$3.9 trillion” is in blue – it’s a hyperlink, but to where? here’s where it goes:

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/05/16/us-banks-commodities-derivatives-analysi-idUSBREA4F02V20140516

    This is still miniscule relative to the $3.9 trillion in commodity derivatives that the top six Wall Street banks still controlled, according to the data, though that sum has barely risen over four years.

    So, do you dispute the accuracy of the report as linked at 12.37am at The Economic Collapse Blog? I don’t need your diversions – just check the matter within the report and tell me what is incorrect.

  27. I don’t know the total amount of derivatives that are out there.

    It is a lot, and it is probably something to be concerned about.

    But don’t link to a blog as a source, esp if you’re running around giving lectures for linking to wikipedia.

    The blog you link to is probably a one man shop. It looks like that. It is that guy’s opinion. If he gets his information from Reuters, then cut out the middleman and link to Reuters yourself.

  28. Colm…I have such a hard time with the video of Eric Garner getting strangled. It hits very close to home for me. I’m trusting that the NYPD cans Panteleo. We don’t want or need him on our streets. That’s first and foremost. If the feds do a more comprehensive evaluation than the grand jury allowed…I welcome the result. The cops are hurting their reputation by ring-fencing tax-paying citizens.

  29. mairin

    In your earlier 2.57pm comment you referred to

    Eric Garner was strangled to death by an on-duty police officer with a history of problems

    did you actually the Police officer having that history of problems or Mr Garner ?

  30. A not so well known fact ( if true ) …

    I understand that the senior NYPD officer on the scene in Staten Island was a black woman sargeant. She would have been in charge there.

    But you sure don’t hear about that fact, do you?

    Just as there is very little reportage of the white male in Missouri who was beat to death by hammer wielding ” protesters ”

    Some things are to be emphasized and some are to be deemphasized

  31. the police officer, Colm. His history was not an integral part of the grand jury hearing.
    Phantom, the supervisor has been on the news; everyone is aware that she watched as Panteleo strangled Garner.

  32. Strangely enough Paul, you fail to challenge the arguments put in the linked article

    Why would I want to challenge them? Apart from being full of speculative conditionals and probabilities what does an obscure blog article have to do with the question I asked on your personal opinion?so, to continue,

    Surely to collectively concoct a plan to eliminate the white race and then angle yourself into the upper echelons of the arts, science, cinema, finance etc in order to execute that plan necessitates collective above average thinking?

    And while you’re at it perhaps you could answer this too?

    Organised jewry doesn’t conspire to destroy its host any more than cancer cells conspire to kill theirs: both are biologically driven

    What’s the basis for them neing ‘biologically driven’ (in biological terms) and why do they have this biological make up?

  33. Phantom, I hope she gets what she deserves…but the buck stops with Panteleo…he’s not wanted on our streets. Other police officers don’t and shouldn’t want to work with him.

  34. She reportedly was given immunity for her testimony to the Grand Jury.

    She may be home free already.

  35. he’s not wanted on our streets…speaking for myself and neighbors and business owners whom I know and have discussed this with and not those I haven’t spoken to/don’t know.
    Most of us live peaceful and good lives and the cops’ over-the-top presence are making it very difficult for us…good show for tourists but not for those of us who live there. And it is a show for the news programs and outsiders, make no mistake about it.

  36. home free in the state’s case…she will be sanctioned by the police I bet. I hope the feds can her.

  37. The blog you link to is probably a one man shop. It looks like that. It is that guy’s opinion.

    That’s dreadful. Imagine a guy being allowed to have an opinion, and to have the temerity to back up his opinion with links which, when taken together as they are intended to be, show the opinion to be pretty solidly based. So as I look at any one of the MSM’s ‘newspapers’, I see paid hacks giving their opinion, but nothing to back the opinion because they don’t need it – they’re writing the opinion which they are paid to write. Any deviation from the script, and it’s bye-bye. That’s the MSM: a catalogue of lies and blatant falsehood.

    On organised jewry and the biological driver for them, Paul asks:

    What’s the basis for them neing ‘biologically driven’ (in biological terms) and why do they have this biological make up?

    I would have though that, from the analogy given at 11.59pm, the drivers behind organised jewry were quite clear from their behaviour. However, I must ask for clarification. Do you believe a) that there is no such thing as organised jewry or b) that there is organised jewry but that it doesn’t attempt to destroy host populations?

  38. Currently on the SI ferry…six cops standing in the corner…two really fat ones eating out of a white paper bag; two others talking on their cells. The other two are doing what they should be…watching out…but they shouldn’t be bunched up in the back Brooklyn side of the boat (unless they’re looking for Phantom:-P ).

  39. Do you believe a) that there is no such thing as organised jewry or b) that there is organised jewry but that it doesn’t attempt to destroy host populations?

    One thing at a time Allan. Why don’t you answer my questions first before asking me yours?

  40. What’s the basis for them neing ‘biologically driven’ (in biological terms) and why do they have this biological make up?

    It’s very simple – their behaviour mimics directly that of destructive entities within a host, to the destruction of the host. There is no negotiating nor persuading which stops the behaviour so it’s not psychological on a human level and must therefore be biologically driven, like cancer. The behaviour of organised jewry in bringing about the destruction of host populations is shown in the way that organised jewry, having control of the US, could have used the US to maintain power (both theirs and that of the host) indefinitely. Instead, policies of economic and demographic destruction have been pursued relentlessly to the point where all that is left is a de-industrialised husk with an imminent minority white population.

    http://www.newsweek.com/americas-getting-less-white-and-will-save-it-289862

    Now who is making America less white and what exactly will turning the US into Mexico or Africa save it from? The article above was written by a William Frey of the Brookings Institution – a jew-controlled entity: and that is what is telling the US, but not Israel, that it needs low-grade dark people. That is the destruction wrought by a cancer or a devastating parasite.

    Now, why don’t you answer my question as put at 11.15pm?

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