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The stresses of Greece remaining in the fatally flawed Eurozone get deeper by the day…

Members of the Greek security forces staged a symbolic hanging in front of the nation’s parliament in Athens in protest at austerity measures in place in the debt-stricken country. Uniformed members of the police force, fire brigade and coast guard staged the emotive demonstration during a rally yesterday to protest against cuts to security forces’ pay and benefits. On the same day the European Central Bank launched a bold plan to save the crumbling euro from collapse, but this led to a damaging rift with Germany.

This tragedy is being played out in several acts of folly. In the final analysis, the Greek people deserve to be FREED from Euro captivity. Yes, they were greedy and some corrupt. Yes their folly was facilitated rather than challenged. But the past is the past and Greece can only flourish IF it leaves the EU. even as its politicians insist they will stay at ALL costs within this monster. I wonder should the hangings put on show become a reality would things alter?

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19 thoughts on “THE GRECIAN NOOSE…

  1. earlier this week truckloads of money were staged outside spain as there was a run on the banks, the greeks are rioting and hanging politicians in effigy. Yet there are those that insist socialism works.

    The EU and the Euro were designed to do two things compete economically with the US and to allow the Nations in the EU that actually produce to support those that don’t.

    Neither objective was achieved or is ever capable of being achieved. Since the first decade of the 1900s this disease of communism in all it’s forms whether called socialism, progressivism, or what ever it’s dedicated sycophants choose to call it has given the world nothing but death, violence, and misery.

    As long as there are those that are allowed to have a hand out instead of a hand up economies will fall and despots will rise to power.

    History has proven this over and over

  2. As long as there are those that are allowed to have a hand out instead of a hand up economies will fall and despots will rise to power.

    Like when?

  3. //Yet there are those that insist socialism works//

    Troll, by your childish definition Germany is also “socialist”, yet it is one of the most dynamic economies and one of the most stable political systems in the world.

    By the way, you said recently that “the US is feeding Europe”. Any idiot (well, any except one) would know that that isn’t true, but I checked out the date and found some interesting figures that you will definitely not like.

    The US was for decades a major agricultural net exporter; then when Bush hit town exports began to decline until, by the end of his termm imports/exports had almost levelled out. Under Obama, on the other hand, exports of agric. goods have rocketed, and the balance of trade in the US favour now stands at a record 34 bn.

    There is no significant balance of trade in agriculture between the US and EU.
    EU agricultural exports have also increased sharply over the past few years and it is now also a strong net exporter.

    In short, you are, as always, talking through your arse.

  4. Phantom you are a man of great ignorance. You pride yourself for your vast knowledge and sophistication, but you know nothing.

    You don’t know your nations history, let alone the worlds history.

    It is not my job to teach you what you have been unable to grasp over your life, but I will gladly mock you.

    You provide a target rich environment.

  5. no I said we feed the world Noel,

    Please post exports of food by metric ton per nation, and you can include the EU as a block if you choose.

    Put the list up for the past 50yrs and back your points up with facts.

  6. Also where did I say Germany was Socialist? Just curious. If your going to post that I said something reprint the statement.

    Does Germany have socialist programs? Yes Is Germany a capitailist industrial dynamo? Yes.

    Is Germany one of the nations required by the EU to carry those nations like Greece that are complete socialist messes YES.

    Are they getting disgusted, and do their people want to bail from the Union YES

  7. Are they getting disgusted, and do their people want to bail from the Union YE

    Show me where most Germans want to leave the EU.

    More bullshitting from a position of zero knowledge

  8. “… do their people want to bail from the Union YES”

    I’ve been in Germany for a while now, and no one has even suggested that. What Germans have you been talking to?

  9. Since the first decade of the 1900s this disease of communism in all it’s forms whether called socialism, progressivism, or what ever it’s dedicated sycophants choose to call it has given the world nothing but death, violence, and misery.

    Troll , Please think before you write ; the above can be said for capitalism , I
    will just mention Bhopal , Niger Delta and Gulf of Mexico oil spill .

  10. Allow me to resume my traditional role of talking sense into people.

    The US is not the greatest exporter of food. Measured by weight it is the greatest, but measured by weight per capita it seems that the Netherlands comes out on top. No doubt the figure is skewed by produce passing through Rotterdam and ending up with a Netherlands stamp on it. Even so, per capita, the US seems to be bested by a number of other countries.

    Even so, the fact of exporting food is a matter of embarrassment where surpluses arise via subsidies and other corruption. Corruption has long surrounded corn production and it’s led to the poison which is high-fructose corn syrup being exported in large quantities, for example.

    Some Germans want to leave the EU, some want to leave the eurozone, some want no more sovereignty ceded to the EU, some want to remain in the EU but have powers reclaimed etc. It’s not just a case of leaving the EU for many people, but overall Germans have become more dubious of the EU and the euro.

  11. I think that there is a hard core majority of support for the EU / European project in Germany and other nations that has been tested but which will endure.

  12. I think that there is a hard core majority of support for the EU / European project in Germany…..

    From having spoken to Germans whenever I was in Germany (frequently, Duesselorf area) there was nobody who favoured ending the D-mark and very few who wanted to extend the power of the EU. Why not have a referendum?

  13. I wouldn’t doubt that. But the Euro is one thing, the EU is another.

    I see zero evidence that big numbers of Germans want out of the EU. They may want it to be a little less grandiose, they may think that letting Greece in was a big error, but you might not want to have a referendum on EU membership. They’d vote to stay in. – Noel, what say you?

  14. Let’s read my comment of 4.31 again:

    “there was nobody who favoured ending the D-mark and very few who wanted to extend the power of the EU. Why not have a referendum?”

    to which a response was:

    Phantom, on September 7th, 2012 at 4:36 pm Said
    I see zero evidence that big numbers of Germans want out of the EU

    Clearly, implicit is insufficient so I’ll make my thoughts explicit. If the EU wishes to extend its powers, each country should have a referendum and ask its people if such powers should be granted to the EU. One of these great leaps of power was the establishment of the Euro. Why was/is a referendum on the Euro not granted to Germans? perhaps the Eurocrats would get the wrong answer and Germany would have to be ‘Irelanded’.

    Irelanded – a population asked the same question until the authorites get the correct response.

  15. Maybe the Germans want their elected representatives to represent them in this matter.

    Though I would think that the Euro was such a massive change in everyone’s affairs that a referendum would have been the right thing to do.

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