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The Zone where Democrats do the crime and they want Trump to do the Time…..

In 2015 Barack Obama, Hillary Clinton, colluded with Russia, Great Britain, and Australia to Frame Donald Trump….. They used Spies from all 3 nations…. The Result…… 3 years of Investigation into Trump colluding with the Russians…….

Now we have Vice President Biden who while he was Vice President Blackmailed the President of Ukraine to Fire a prosecutor that was about to indict Hunter Biden for corruption or he would not give the Ukraine a Billion Dollars of our Aid…. So what does this lead to…..

Trump will be Impeached for ASKING the President of Ukraine about the Blackmailing by Vice President Joe Biden……

Welcome to the Trumpzone….. A place where others do the Crime and Trump does the Time…….

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  1. Biden admitted the US wanted Viktpr Shokin removed. They did so because, as has been testified by members of Shokin’s own office, and the US Ambassador to the Ukraine, Shokin was soft on routing out corruption. Biden is far from on his own here, with many Western European officials, the EBRD, and the IMF all wanting Shokin removed.

    Trump is attempting to collude with a foreign government against a political opponent.

  2. Yeah?

    Did Christine Lagarde & the IMF ‘blackmail’ them because Viktor Shokin ‘was about to indict Hunter Biden for corruption’ too?

    The president has come under pressure at home and internationally for refusing to replace a long-time loyalist, Viktor Shokin, as chief prosecutor. Mr Shokin has been criticised for failing to bring to justice any of the snipers who killed dozens of protesters in central Kiev in the final days of the revolution, and for dragging his feet over investigating senior officials and businesspeople.

    Taras Kuzio, a Ukrainian political analyst, tweeted that “the crunch is coming for President Poroshenko who has to choose between finally supporting anti-corruption efforts or losing IMF money”.

    https://www.ft.com/content/44c1641e-cff7-11e5-831d-09f7778e7377

  3. Hunter Biden, Joe Biden’s son, had a very well paid job for a large Ukranian energy company, despite having zero expertise in that industry or in that part of the world.

    That was improper, esp when the father is the VP negotiating sensitive matters with the same government that regulated the gas company.

    Hunter Biden should never have accepted that job. His father should have advised him never to accept that job. Both father and son failed Ethics 101 here.

    This cannot be ignored in any conversation about Trump’s shenanigans with Giuliani and the Ukranian president.

  4. It’s not being ignored Phantom:

    Joe Biden Blackmailed the President of Ukraine?

    The accusation is that JB witheld the money in order to save his son from prosecution at a time when many western nations were probing corruption in Ukraine. What I would like to know is did the IMF ‘blackmail’ Ukraine by threatening to withold money in order to stymie the alleged investigation into Biden’s son or because of corruption, particularly by Viktor Shokin, as demonstrated above?

  5. Hunter Biden’s partner in this was john kerry’s stepson Christopher Heinz.

    Also in the 1.5 Billion bribe by China it was Hunter, Chris, and James Bulger Jr…. Whitey Bulger’s Son.

  6. It doesn’t matter what the IMF did or didn’t do….. That is not America.

    Biden and his and Kerry’s Sons broke AMERICAN LAW.

    That’s what matters.

  7. There is at a very minimum the manifest appearance of corruption.

    And this is the last subject in the world that Democrats want to talk about.

    So let’s talk about it all day long.

    You can’t be opposed to the activities of the Trump crime family while accepting the likes of this from the Biden family.

  8. Biden broke American Law as a representative of our Country, it doesn’t matter that he was blackmailing another Country.

  9. Gee a vice president son gets a lucrative job because of his dad, this sounds familiar something similar happened in the 80’s

  10. You can’t be opposed to the activities of the Trump crime family while accepting the likes of this from the Biden family.

    now apply that to the Russian Collusion

  11. There is at a very minimum the manifest appearance of corruption

    At the very most it was a conflict of interest for Biden snr.

    There is absolutely no evidence that Biden used the threat of witholding aid from Ukraine other than anything but to get a central corruption suspect removed from power like other governments and organisations were trying to do.

    Who cares

    If you’re trying to push the Biden ‘blackmail’ line then you should as the IMF did exactly the same thing.

  12. Phantom, on September 25th, 2019 at 3:28 PM Said: Edit Comment
    I don’t know that Joe Biden broke any American law.

    I see zero evidence of that.

    He admits to his blackmail in the clip below….. Blackmail is against American Law.

  13. Biden broke American Law as a representative of our Country

    Specifically what American law did he break in Ukraine?

  14. He admits to his blackmail in the clip below

    It’s not blackmail, aid is given or withdrawn at the descretion of the donor.

  15. Nepotism among the political class is rife.

    Chelsea Clinton got a $600,000 a year job at NBC, and then got a six figure job at McKinsey.

    Those jobs don’t grow on trees.

    Wonder what her qualifications were

  16. At the very most it was a conflict of interest for Biden snr.

    not according to the Law…… What it’s a crime IF Trump did it, but ok that Biden actually did it ?

    If you’re trying to push the Biden ‘blackmail’ line then you should as the IMF did exactly the same thing.

    No I don’t the IMF is not the US….. I could careless what they did or didn’t do it has nothing to do with the US.

  17. There is zero evidence that Joe Biden broke any US law.

    That’s all hogwash, unless you have evidence that the rest of the world lacks

  18. Wonder how GW Bush became the owner of the Texas Rangers baseball team despite no track record of success in any business.

  19. Not according to the Law

    What law? I asked you to specifically state which US law Biden had broken in the Ukraine.

  20. Wonder how GW Bush became the owner of the Texas Rangers baseball team despite no track record of success in any business.

    Because he had the money to buy them……

  21. No I don’t the IMF is not the US

    It’s headquartered in Washington DC so presumablY it ‘broke American law’ too?

  22. The IMF would not be subject to US law as to what it does in Ukraine IMO but there is no evidence of any crime that the objective observer can see

  23. It’s a Quid Pro Quo crime…… look it up

    As usual making accusations and expecting others to prove them?

    What law? I asked you to specifically state which US law Biden had broken in the Ukraine.

    Please state specifically what you allege?

  24. Paul if you’re going to spin at least take the time to try and understand the facts and the Law….

    Do your research.

    You say no Law was broken, but YOU haven’t bothered to research the Law….. not my job to do your research.

  25. I see no evidence of any crime by Joe Biden

    I strongly criticize him and the son for allowing the appearance of corruption to exist as respects the sons job at a sensitive Ukranian company at a time when the father was VP

  26. Pat, I have two law degrees and understand the facts of law perfectly. I want you to verify your allegations about some meaningless soundbite.

    You say no Law was broken

    That’s an absolute untruth, I have said no such thing. I have asked you and ask you again to specifically demonstrate which US laws were broken by Biden in the Ukraine.

    Here’s the Trump administration ‘blackmailing’ Afghanistan in exactly the same way as Joe Biden and the IMF ‘blackmailed’ Ukraine:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/us-withdrawing-100-million-in-aid-to-afghanistan-amid-corruption-concerns/2019/09/19/11be52ea-db1d-11e9-a688-303693fb4b0b_story.html

  27. So when Trump said he’d set tariffs against Mexico if they didn’t do more to combat immigration – was he blackmailing them? And when is he going to prison for it?

  28. In common law, quid pro quo indicates that an item or a service has been traded in return for something of value, usually when the propriety or equity of the transaction is in question. A contract must involve consideration : that is, the exchange of something of value for something else of value. It is also called blackmail when done under duress.

    Biden withheld Funds until the Prosecutor investigating his son was fired…. What kind of Law are your degrees in ? (real question)

  29. Seamus, on September 25th, 2019 at 3:56 PM Said: Edit Comment
    So when Trump said he’d set tariffs against Mexico if they didn’t do more to combat immigration – was he blackmailing them? And when is he going to prison for it?

    Nope…. nice try, but that’s a negotiation and totally Legal.

  30. The money Biden held up was already committed to the Ukraine approved by Congress and committed to Ukraine by the President.

    Biden on his own held up that money to get his son out of trouble…. that’s a crime.

  31. “Biden on his own held up that money to get his son out of trouble…. that’s a crime.”

    Any evidence of that? Because there is plenty of evidence to suggest that the US wanted the prosecutor gone to aid anti corruption efforts.

  32. I have an LLB in law & Government and an LLM in International Human Rights Law.

    A contract must involve consideration

    International aid doesn’t involve contract law, one of which the central doctrines is offer & acceptance. Please demonstrate what the contract Ukraine & the US entered into in terms of International Aid?

    Here’s the Trump administration ‘blackmailing’ Afghanistan in exactly the same way as Joe Biden and the IMF ‘blackmailed’ Ukraine

    so, the Trump administration is guilty ‘f breaking US law in Afghanistan?

  33. A Bachelors and a Masters I’m impressed.

    What have you done with them ?

    A Masters in Human Rights Law combined with a Bachelors in Government Law…. you should be working for Amnesty International.

  34. Not a Bachelors in Government Law. An LLB in Law & Government. I suppose in the US it would be an LLB with a minor in what amounted to politics.

    If Biden is guilty of breaking US law in Ukraine isn’t the Trump administration guilty of breaking US law in Afghanistan?

  35. Seamus you tell me… Biden was in charge of it. Have you seen the transcripts of Bidens calls?

    Did you read the (god forgive me) NYTs article back in May that warned Biden this escapade was a threat to his candidacy ?

  36. If Biden is guilty of breaking US law in Ukraine isn’t the Trump administration guilty of breaking US law in Afghanistan?

    No we are at war with Afghanistan…. different set of Laws and negotiation rules.

  37. I’m jealous of your degrees….. I only have the credit equivalent to an Associates Degree in Constitutional Law.

    I was forced to choose between pursuing it or my degree in computer science… To many conflicts in class scheduling.

  38. Seamus, on September 25th, 2019 at 4:25 PM Said: Edit Comment
    The US is not at war with Afghanistan. Stop making stuff up.

    LMAO….. tell that to thousands of ours that have died and the tens of thousands of Afghans we’ve killed.

  39. Pat Bush did not have any money to buy into the Texas Rangers, he was given part in ownership because of his last name. His partners then used that name to leverage a brand new stadium out of the tax payers. They sold the whole kit and kaboodle shortly after the stadiums completion and that’s where bush2’s money all comes from

  40. “tell that to thousands of ours that have died and the tens of thousands of Afghans we’ve killed.”

    Fighting Al Qaeda and the Taliban, not Afghanistan.

  41. If you read the transcript….. back to the post….

    One name that stands out is “Crowdstrike”

    In its capacity as attorney for the DNC, Perkins Coie – through another of its partners, Michael Sussman – is also the law firm that retained CrowdStrike, the cyber security outfit, upon learning in April 2016 that the DNC’s servers had been hacked.

    Interesting: Despite the patent importance of the physical server system to the FBI and Intelligence-Community investigation of Russian meddling in the 2016 election, the Bureau never examined the DNC servers. Evidently, the DNC declined to cooperate to that degree, and the Obama Justice Department decided not to issue a subpoena to demand that the servers be turned over (just like the Obama Justice Department decided not to issue subpoenas to demand the surrender of critical physical evidence in the Clinton e-mails investigation).

    Instead, the conclusion that Russia is responsible for the invasion of the DNC servers rests on the forensic analysis conducted by CrowdStrike. Rather than do its own investigation, the FBI relied on a contractor retained by the DNC’s lawyers.

    the more the Dems pull on this call the deeper the hole they are digging.

  42. Fighting Al Qaeda and the Taliban, not Afghanistan.

    Seamus the Taliban was the Government of Afghanistan we went to WAR with them for harboring Al Qaeda.

    Please try to stay in reality.

  43. No we are at war with Afghanistan

    The US gives aid to a country it’s at war with?

    You know what I think? I think that Trump was caught conspiring with a foreign source to get dirt on a domestic political opponent and was caught in the act and is now attempting to construct a diversion in order to try to attempt to shift attention.

    I also think that you’re propagating this groundless diversion here and you’re making it up as you go along.

    If Biden broke US law in Ukraine then the IMF which is headquartered in DC and the Trump administration regarding Afghanistan are guilty of the same thing.

    I only have the credit equivalent to an Associates Degree in Constitutional Law

    Better than a poke in the eye wih a pointed stick.

  44. “Seamus the Taliban was the Government of Afghanistan we went to WAR with them for harboring Al Qaeda.”

    Actually the US, the West and the UN never recognised the Taliban as the government of Afghanistan. So the US was never at war with Afghanistan.

  45. MEMORANDUM OF TELEPHONE CONVERSATION
    SUBJECT:
    PARTICIPANTS:
    DATE, TIME
    AND PLACE:
    (C) Telephone Conversation with President
    Zelenskyy of Ukraine
    Pre·sident Zelenskyy of . Ukraine
    Notetakers: The White House Situation·Room
    July 25, 2019, 9:03 – 9:33 a.m. EDT
    Residence
    (S/NF) The President: Congratulations on a great victory. We all
    watched from the United States and you did a terrific.job. The
    way.you came from behind, -somebody who wasn’t given much of a
    chan�e, and you ended up winning ea�ily. It’� a fantastic
    achievement. Congratulations. (:J;’UP’ President Zelenskyy: You· are absolutely right Mr.
    Presideht.• We did win big and we worked hard for _this. We worked
    a lot but I would like to confe$s to you that I had �n
    opportunity to learn from you. We used quite a few of your
    skills· and knowledge and were able to use .it as an example to·r
    our ele.ctions -and.yes it is-true that these were unique
    elections. We were in a·unique situation· that we· were able to achieve a unique success. I’m able to tell you the following;
    the first time,\ you· called me to · congratulate .
    me .when I won my
    presid�ntial election, and the second time you are now calling
    me when my party won the parliamentary election. I think I
    should run more often so you can call me more often and we can
    talk over the phone more often.
    (�;’!��) The Pre�:ddent: [laughter] That’s a very good idea. T ·
    think your c·ount,ry is very happy about that.
    (S/iQl’,. President Zelenskyy: Well yes, to tell you the truth, we
    are trying to work hard because we wanted to drain the swamp
    here in our country. We brought in many many new people. Not the
    old politicians, not the typical politicians, because we want to
    have a new format and a new type of government .. You are a great
    teacher for us and in that.
    (3/H!i, The President: Well it 1 s·very nice of you .to say that. I
    will say that we do ·a lot for Ukraine. We spend a lot . of effort
    and a lot.of time. Much more than the European countries are
    ·’doing and they should be helping.you more than.they are. Germany
    does almost nothing for you. All they do is talk and I think
    it’s something that you should ·really ask them about. When I.was·
    ·speaking to Angela Merkel she talks Ukraine, but she ·doesn’t do·
    anything. A lot of the European countries are the. same way· so I
    think it’s.something you want to look at but the United States
    has been very ·very good to Ukraine. I wouldn’t say that it’s
    reciprocal necessarily because things are happening that are not
    good but the United States has been very very
    .
    good to Ukraine.
    (3/MF) President Zelenskyy: Yes you are·absolutely right. �ot
    .only 100%, but actually 1000% arid I can tell you the following;
    I did talk to Angela �erkel and I did meet.with her. I also met
    and talked withMacron . and I told them that they are not doing
    quite as much as they need to be doing·on the issues with the
    sanctions. They are not enforcing the sanctions. They are not
    working as much as
    .
    they should work for Ukraine� It turns out
    that even though logically, the European Union should be our
    biggest· partner but technically the United States is a much
    bigger partner than.the European Union and- I’m very grateful to
    you for that because the United States is doing quite a· lot for
    Ukraine. Much more than the E”�ropean Union especially when we
    are talking about sanctions against the Russia,n Federation.

    pdf’s don’t like to be copied…….


  46. · would also·li�e to thank you·for.your great support iri the area
    of defense. . We. are ready to continue to cooperate for the next
    steps. specifically we a·re almost. ready to buy more Javelins from
    ·_ the United· States for defense purposes ..•t:�;’HP) The· President: I would like you to do us a favor though
    because our country has been through a lot and Ukraine knows a
    lot about it. I would like you to find out what happened with
    this whole si�uation with Ukraine, they s_ay Crowdstrike … I guess
    you have one of your weal thy people… The server, they say
    Ukraine has.it� There- are a lot. of things that went on, the·
    :whole situation .. I think you 1 re _surrounding yourse·lf with some
    of the same people. I .
    would like to have the Attorney General
    call you or your people and I would like you t� ·get to the
    bottom of it�. As you sa� yest�rday, that whole nonsetise ended
    with a very poor performance by a man named Robert Mue�le_r, an
    incompetent performance-, _but they. say a lot of it started with
    Ukraine. Whatever you can do, ·it’s very important that· you. do it
    if that’s possible.
    (l!l-,’HP) President Zelenskyy: Yes it is. very important for me and
    everything that you just mentioned earlier. For me as a
    President,-· it is very important and we are open for any future
    cooperation. We are ready to· open a new page on �ooperation in
    . relations between the United· States and Ukraine.· For that·
    purpose, I just recalled our.ambassador from United States and
    he will be replaced by a very competent and very experienced
    ambassador who wtll work hard on making sure that our two
    nations are getting clciser. I would also like and hope to see
    him having your trust and y9ur .confidence and _ have persona·1
    relations·with you so we c�n cooperate even �ore so. I·
    wili.
    personally tell you that one· of my assistants· spoke with Mr.
    Giuliani just.recently and we are hoping very much that Mr.
    G1uliani will be able to travel to Ukraine and. we will meet once
    · he co�es to Ukraine. I just wanted to assure you once again_that
    you _have nobody but friends around-us. I w.ill make sure -that-I
    surro�nd myself with the best and most experienced people._ I
    also· wanted to ·tell you that we are friends. We are great·
    friends and you Mr. President have. friends -in our country so we
    can continue our strategic·�artn�rship. I also plan to surround
    · myself with great people ·and in addition to that investigation,
    I guarantee as the President of Ukraine that all the
    investigations.will be done_openly and candidly .. That I can
    assure you ..
    (:9/MF� The Pre·sident: Good because I· heard you had a prosecutor
    who· was very·good and he was shut down and that’s really unfair.
    _·A lot of people are talking about that, the way they shut your
    �ery good prosecutor down and you had some �ery bad people
    involved. Mr. Giuliani is a highly respected man. He was the_
    mayor bf New York Ci:ty, a great mayor, and I would like him to
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    call you. I will ask him to call yoti along with the Attorney·_
    ·· General.· :Rudy very much knows what’s happening and he is a very
    capable guy. If you could _speak to him that would be great. The
    former ambassador from the United $tates,· the woman., was bad
    news �nd th� people she was dealing with in .the Ukraine .were bad
    news so I jtist wan� to_let you know that� The ot�er thing,
    There’s a lot 6f. talk about Biden’s son,. that Eiden stopped the
    prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so
    whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great.
    Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if
    you ·can look into it … It sounds horrible to me.
    (S;’ti!F) President Zelenskyy: I wanted to tell ·you about the
    prosecutor� First df �11 I understand arid I’m kn6wledgeable
    .abotit the situation. Sine� we ha�e �on· the ab�olute majority in
    our Parliament; the next prosecutor .general will be 100%_ my
    person, my c’andidate, who will be approved, by the parliament and
    will start. a_s a new prosecutor in September. He or she will look.
    into the situation, specifically to the company that you
    -mentioned in :this issue. The issue of the investigation of the
    case is �ctually the issui of �aking sure to res�o�e the honesty
    so we will take care of.that and wi11·wo:tk on the investigation
    of the case. On top of that, I would kindly ask you if you have
    any additional information that you can provide ·to µs, it would_
    be very helpful · for the investigation t·o make· su.re that we
    administer justice i’:r1 our country with regc:ird: to the Ambassador
    to the United States from Ukraine as far as I recall her name
    was Ivanovicli. It was great that you were the first one. who told
    me that she was a bad ambassador because I agree·with you 100%.
    Her attitude to.wards me was far from the best as she admired the
    previous President and she was on his· side. She would not accept
    �e as a new President· well enough.
    . . . .
    (3/MF) The President: Well,
    ·she’ s going tO go through some
    things. I will. have Mr. Giuliani.give you a call and I _ am. also
    going to have.Attorney General Barr call and we will get to· the
    bottom of it. I’m sure you will figure it o�t. I heard the
    prosecutor was treated very badly and he was a very fa�r
    prosecuto_r so good luck with everything. Your. economy is going-·
    to get better and bett.er I pre.diet. You have a lot· of a,ssets.
    It’s a great country. I have many Ukrainian friends, their
    incredible ·people.
    (B/MF�- President Z�lenskyy: I would like to tell you that I also
    have.quite a few·Ukrain1an friends that live iri the United·
    States. ·Actually last time I traveled to the Unit’ed States, I
    stayed in New York n�ar Central Park and I stayed at the Trump_ UN�� �—–,… –..J ��µ._;,�…..;._�.!…,_..:_ ��–��/ .m,
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    Tower. I will t
    ·alk to thetn and I hope to see t_hem· again in the
    future. I also w·anted to _
    .thank you .for your invitation to visit
    the United States, specifically Washington DC. On ,the other
    hand, I also wartt td ensur� ·you that we will. be ��ry serious
    about.the case and will work on the investigation. As to.the
    economy, there is much potential for our two countries and one _
    of· the ·issues. that is ve:;ry important for Ukraine is· energy
    independence. I believe we can b� very succ�ssful. and
    cooperating on energy independence witp United States. We -are
    already working on cooperation. We are buying Americ�n oil but I
    am very hopeful for- ·a future meeting. We will have more time and
    more opportunitie� to discuss these opportunities· and get to
    know each other better. I would like to thank you very much for
    your sv.pport –
    (8/Ui?� · The President: Good. Well., thank you very much and I
    appreciate that. I will tell Rudy and Attorney General Barr to.·
    call. Thank you. Whenever you would like -to come to the White
    House,. feel ·fr�e to call. ·Give us a date and we’ll work that.
    out. I ·1ook forward to seeing you.
    (:9/Nil?) · President ·zelens�yy: Thank ·you very much. I would be very
    happy to come and would be happy to meet with you per�onally and
    I . .
    . get to know. you better. ::r: am l.ooking forward to our meeting arid
    I .also would like
    ·
    -to invite you to visit Ukraine and come to the
    city bf Kyiv which is a beautiful city. We have a beautiful
    country Which would welcome you. On the other hand, I believe
    that on Septernber_l we will be in Poland and we can meet in
    Poland hopefully. After that,· it might be a very good idea for
    you to.travel to Ukraine. We can either take my plane and go to
    Ukraine or we can take your plane, which is probably mucl� better
    than mine.
    (�/MF) ‘The President: Okay,. ·we can work that ·out. I look forwar·a
    to seeing you in Washington and maybe in· Poland bec·ause I think
    we are going to be there at that tlme .
    . {�/MF) · President · Zelenskyy: Thank you very much Mr. President.
    (El/HF� The President:· Congratulations on· a fantastic job you’ve
    done-. The whole world was watching. I’m not sure it was so much
    of an upset but congratulations.
    (B/HF’ President Zelenskyy: Thank you Mr. President bye-bye ..
    End of Conversation

  47. Is there any reason given as to why Trump directed the US government to withhold approx $391m in military aid to Ukraine days before he made the phone call to Ukraine about Biden?

  48. Read what? The suspension of military aid happened days before the telephone conversation.

    What their any reason given for the suspension?

  49. but the accusation for impeachment is that it was discussed on THIS call…..

    Where ?

    According to the Dems on this call Trump demanded Biden be investigated or you won’t get the weapons.

    Trump said there is no such thing on that call. That the reason the week before that the weapons/money was held up was to force Germany and other Euro nations to cough up what they promised. It was being leveraged against them not the Ukraine.

    The transcript proves Trump was right and the Dems were wrong. They even bitch about the germans and french (f the french) on the call.

  50. OT
    Abe is on the tube with Trump…. Abe has Biden Eye…. his right eye is filled with blood.

  51. That the reason the week before that the weapons/money was held up was to force Germany and other Euro nations to cough up what they promised. It was being leveraged against them not the Ukraine.

    Ukraine was being denied aid in order to ‘leverage’ other Euro nations to pay?

    What an utterly absurd, ridiculous claim.

    Please link to the source of this farce.

  52. “where the politicians of my country reside”

    Two politicians do the same thing. One is blackmail and he should be put in prison. The other is negotiations and he should be defended. The only difference is you like one and don’t like the other.

  53. Seamus, on September 25th, 2019 at 6:03 PM Said: Edit Comment
    “where the politicians of my country reside”

    Two politicians do the same thing. One is blackmail and he should be put in prison. The other is negotiations and he should be defended. The only difference is you like one and don’t like the other.

    No Trump was acting in the Law, Biden was working outside it….. to legitimate Law abiding citizens which is most of America…. that makes all the difference.

  54. “No Trump was acting in the Law, Biden was working outside it….. to legitimate Law abiding citizens which is most of America…. that makes all the difference.”

    What law was Biden breaking?

  55. Phantom, on September 25th, 2019 at 6:05 PM Said: Edit Comment
    ” All Democrats should be put in prison “

    No not ALL and not just Democrats….. Anyone who breaks the Law. I don’t care if you’re an R, a D, a Christian, or a Heathen…. The Law must apply to EVERYONE.

    When Mueller was doing his inquisition I stated if he finds anything on Trump he should be prosecuted. I said I would lead the demand.

    You people want their to be two tiers of Justice not me.

  56. “Anyone who breaks the Law. I don’t care if you’re an R, a D, a Christian, or a Heathen…. The Law must apply to EVERYONE.”

    Only when you are a Democrat then hearsay and bullshit is enough to convict. When it is a Republican you turn into a line item ambulance chaser.

  57. Trump admits he held up Ukraine military aid so allies would pay their share

    Ridiculous, absurd, made up explanation.

  58. He admits that he was only trying to save humanity, and the children.

    He would never do anything bad.

  59. I haven’t convicted anyone….. I merely point out Biden’s self admission of Blackmail.

    The President of the United States is granted the power by article 2 of the Constitution to administer and negotiate with foreign governments ANYWAY he choses. It’s his and bhis alone.

    The Vice President which Biden was at the time has NO AUTHORITY to do anything under the Constitution his sole role Under Law is to be able to finish a Presidents Term if the President dies or becomes incapacitated. Nothing Else.

    He can not hold approved money up which according to his own words he did.

  60. “I haven’t convicted anyone….. I merely point out Biden’s self admission of Blackmail.”

    Where did Biden admit to that? The video you posted the other day holds nothing of the sort.

  61. Ridiculous, absurd, made up explanation.

    Well that’s what the democrats would like to prove, but they can’t.

  62. Phantom, on September 25th, 2019 at 8:17 PM Said: Edit Comment
    When did he admit to engaging in blackmail

    In that situation he was the president’s agent.

    If you paid attention and actually watched the video clips I put up you wouldn’t have to ask….

  63. “If you paid attention and actually watched the video clips I put up you wouldn’t have to ask….”

    I watched them. It showed a member of the US Government saying the US Government threatened to withhold aid to Ukraine unless Ukraine agreed to follow US direction. When Democrats do that you call it blackmail. When Republicans do it you call it negotiations.

  64. Biden might have been acting on behalf of Obama, he says fire him or I leave when the Ukrainians said you don’t have that authority only the President does… Biden said go ahead call him… so he could have had orders from the president to do that… the investigation in that case will clear Joe Biden, but not Hunter.

    Lets see the records.

  65. Seamus it all depends who says it…..

    The President of the United States Under Law is the ONLY PERSON who can say it and it NOT be breaking the Law…..

    So you admit that you witnessed Biden admit to breaking the Law…. thank you for that affirmation.

  66. “The President of the United States Under Law is the ONLY PERSON who can say it and it NOT be breaking the Law…..”

    So when Jared was negotiating with the Israelis he was breaking the law?

  67. “So you admit that you witnessed Biden admit to breaking the Law…. thank you for that affirmation.”

    Nope. Biden carried out US government policy.

  68. Wasn’t Jared supposed to have solved the opioid crisis and negotiated a lasting peace in the Middle East by now?

    He’s really smart, I’m told.

  69. lmao….. you’d make a perfect Democrat.

    No once again the nuances of reality escape you.

  70. Has Jared, Pompeo’s son, and Gotti’s kid formed a consolting company that recieved a billion and a half from the chicoms ?

    Biden’s son, Kerry’s son and Whitey Bulger’s son did……..

  71. Does it matter? You said Biden broke the law because he carried out an act only the President could do. If that is the case then so did Jared. And every US diplomat ever. Or you are just making it up as you go along because you know you are talking shite but can’t openly admit that.

  72. no Biden was there to deliver money not negotiate the negotiations for that money were finished he can’t pull it back at the last minute the deal was signed.

    You want to compare unfinished negotiations with finished ones….. it don’t work that way sorry.

  73. “no Biden was there to deliver money not negotiate the negotiations for that money were finished he can’t pull it back at the last minute the deal was signed.”

    Says who?

  74. What was the Purpose of Biden’s Trip to Ukraine Seamus….. ?

    To Deliver the MONEY….. the negotiations for it were over……..

    Now if he can produce documentation that Obama gave him Authority to reopen those negotiations then there’s no crime.

    I’m sure that Documentation is forthcoming.

  75. “What was the Purpose of Biden’s Trip to Ukraine Seamus….. ?

    To Deliver the MONEY….. the negotiations for it were over……..”

    Do you think he came along with a briefcase filled with cash? These things would be done with wire transfers. So he clearly went with other purpose.

    “Now if he can produce documentation that Obama gave him Authority to reopen those negotiations then there’s no crime.”

    That isn’t how crime works. You have to prove that he didn’t have authority to do this. He doesn’t have to prove that he did.

  76. I haven’t convicted anyone….. I merely point out Biden’s self admission of Blackmail.

    Biden didn’t ‘blackmail’ anyone much less admit to it.

  77. Uranium 1 was part of the Hillary crime cover up all that stuff is being gone over again as we speak…..

  78. The FBI was compromised every political investigation the FBI did can no longer be considered valid……

    see what a two tier system does ?

  79. This is why it is so important that those that falsified, fabricated, or destroyed evidence or ordered it done must be prosecuted…..

    I don’t care about Trump, Biden, Hillary, or Obama I care that our justice system has been compromised.

    The entire past 3 years are the result of a corrupt justice system, our top cops playing politics…. all of this is the result of that corruption.

    and it’s far from over.

  80. The subject was stated by Speaker Pelosi: ““The actions taken to date by the president have seriously violated the Constitution,” Ms. Pelosi said in a brief speech invoking the nation’s founding principles. Mr. Trump, she added, “must be held accountable — no one is above the law.”

    She said the president’s conduct revealed his “betrayal of his oath of office, betrayal of our national security and betrayal of the integrity of our elections.”

    The Biden angle is a Republican smokescreen, and it is laughably obvious.

    The focus is on Trump and how he has conducted himself. A majority of the House is in favor of the investigation which means they will probably vote for impeachment. After getting caught enlisting Russian assistance to take the presidency he recently strong-armed the Ukrainians to do the same for next year’s election. That is just one on the many reasons for impeachment. Much will come out during the impeachment proceedings and most will not be favorable to Trump. The Democrats are primarily acting on principle as stated by the Speaker. Of course, this is also political but the most good will be derived from the principle of holding the president accountable.

    Some will say there will not be enough votes in the senate to convict. But it is too early to predict that since we do not know what will be uncovered and how Trump will react. But the principle of holding the president accountable is paramount. Maybe this will be a “first” for Trump in presidential history.

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