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……………………………………and you see something pretty nasty and unpleasant,”

So sayeth Tony Blair, the true voice of Labour as well as both Conservatives and the LibDums.

British people tend to speak as they find, and I, in particular, tend to speak out possibly more often and perhaps more robustly than many. I have watched many politicians on tv screens, and heard many more by radio, and I can honestly state that I have come across few more deeply unpleasant and self-serving that the man who led the British Labour Party for some thirteen years.

The old-style Labour movement, despite opposing their strategies, politics and divisive actions for most of my adult life, held a strange fascination for me.  The Labour politicians of my youth had integrity by the bucket-full, the word ‘honesty’ must have been invented to categorise the Labour believers, and; despite being diametrically opposed to the very idea of Socialism, and of course Marxism and Communism, from which most of the Labour Party gained a great deal of their core beliefs and structures, I found that they could be depended upon to follow their words with deeds, and they never disappointed the millions who followed, and believed in them, as both politicians and as men of their word.

Take a close, measured look at the crop which inherited the legacy after the sudden and unfortunate death of John Smith, a man of integrity, of honesty and of truth, and then judge them on their  words and follow their deeds. The age of the ‘spin-doctor’ arrived with their weasel words, their smooth and subtle demolitions of their opponents, both inside as well as outside, their beloved Labour Party. The by-line of the Labour Party morphed from ‘We shall serve the Nation” to ‘Things can only get better’, and if you believed that, you’d believe anything. From the dodgy double dealings of Blair’s sidekick Peter Mandelson, who sold the Hinduja Brothers their British passports for a measly half-million quid each, throught the machinations of Blair and Hain and the travesty of the Belfast Agreement; to the sordid sexual antics of ‘bluff John Prescott’, he of the Deputy Prime Minister’s title and the revolving office door and stained desk. It is true that no-one could aim any sexual innuendo at Blair, but only because his barbed-wire-lipped wife would probably have castrated him if he had ever strayed off the reservation.

His policy of nodding in tune with Bush, whilst valid in the case of a truly criminal bunch in Afghanistan, led us into the catastrophe which was Iraq, and we all know what happened there. His Defence policies, of never planning and providing the right equipment for a war undreamed by the planners, gave rise to a new industry back home in Britain, that of manufacturing and devising hi-tech artificial limbs to replace those blown off by ever-more sophisticated roadside bombs.

The strategies of leaving the migration door wide open has left us with a million-odd strong army of ‘jihadi’ volunteers, as well as the lunacies of the forerunners to the Lisbon Treaty which not only left the doors ever wider, the damn hinges rusted away, as the floods of Polish and hundreds of thousands of all varieties of African, Bandladeshi, Asian and Arabic jetsam washed up on our shores; all of whom were immediately designated ‘asylum seekers’: and we live with the garbage even today, with the recent arrival of the Roma, the Bulgars and the rest of the squalid clowns all eager to demonstrate their ability to sign on for all the welfare available! By the deliberate policies of Blair and his cohorts, the very face of Britain has been visibly altered, and we cannot do anything about it!

After he finally saw the light, and left us with that true no-hoper Gordon Brown, who held the distinction of being disliked by everybody; he swans off around the world, giving lectures and speeches to the faithful, the bankers and the odd dictator or two, and making a fortune estimated in the millions whilst doing so.

Blair labels those British people who voted  or stand for UKIP as unpleasant; but I ask you, has this slippery bastard ever looked in a mirror?

 

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58 thoughts on ““You look underneath that UKIP facade…………..

  1. I think whenever he looks in the mirror he sees nothing. Such is the nature of the ‘BEAST’.

  2. I would like to think that whenever Blair the monster looked in a mirror, Dr David Kelly was staring back at him.

  3. Plus a shedload of young men with prosthetic limbs..
    Oh and a nice flying jacket with “YO BLAIR!” emblazoned on the back..
    Tony Blair, the Scottish version of Titus Oates.
    An odious oily politician who fawned and misled and loves himself hugely…

  4. That’s a badge of honour, coming from the likes of him. UKIP should put it on the membership cards.

  5. Al I want to hear from that a**hole is that he’s surrendered himself to the international criminal court to be tried for his war crimes. Hang the B’stard.

    Me I ukipped and I’m damn proud of it too.

  6. I get the slight sense of a little bit of hostility to our former prime Minister in this thread.

  7. She’s a classy act alright, original patriot. The council minutes might be worth a read in the months to come 🙂

  8. Besides being anti-Europe and anti-immigrant, does the UKIP have any other serious policies? Because if not, I’m afraid to say, Blair is right. And, the UKIP vote is nothing more than a protest vote which is worthless. Immigration is a problem in that they perform better than the locals. The UK economy would tank without the EU, the best policy is to reform the EU to the UK’s best advantage.

  9. New Yorker,
    Politics in the States and here have polarised into a choice of three here and two over there. The problem is that over time all parties have fossilised and corrupted themselves into manipulators of the people and agents of big business and special interest groups.

    So UKIP is not anti immigrant, it is anti uncontrolled immigration. (btw how many immigrants have you offered hospitality to? How involved are you in friendship/integration projects in your neighbourhood?)

    UKIP is more than a protest vote, it is becoming a voice for the people who have been ignored for too long. We want to either totally renegotiate our place within Europe and be able to trade freely across the world, or come out altogether.

    Blair? Blair is a disgrace to my country.

  10. Blair says that UKIP is unpleasant: Cameron says that they are fruitcakes loonies and closet racists. The fact is that this is exactly what Blair, Cameron, Brown (hilariously caught on microphone ) think of the British people and they really do believe that the British people should be replaced, which is what they are doing.

    As for UKIP itself, it is anti-EU and the single puprpose for its existence is to get the UK out of the EU. Achieving that aim would liberate us from the control of the Eurocratic class which has nothing better to do than make the lives of the mass of people as miserable as possible.

    Is a vote for UKIP a protest vote? Yes – it’s a protest against the mendacity, dishonesty, incompetence and greed of the political class.

  11. // We want to either totally renegotiate our place within Europe and be able to trade freely across the world, or come out altogether. //

    Eh? Who in the EU is stopping you trading freely across the world? What places can Britain now not trade with that it was able to trade with before joining?

    Actually, the EU is currently negotiating a massive free-trade agreement with the US and the rest of north America (sadly neglected on ATW). When this deal is done, it will be the largest free-trade area in terms of volume the world has ever seen – stretching all the way from Hawaii and Alaska to the Baltic and Cyprus and covering about 800 million people.
    I’d say free trade is probably the worst reason for a Englishman to criticise membership of the EU. But feel free…

    As for wanting to come out – don’t be shy, you a come out here. We are a tolerant bunch on ATW!

  12. The lies behind this transatlantic trade deal..

    “The purpose of the Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership is to remove the regulatory differences between the US and European nations. I mentioned it a couple of weeks ago. But I left out the most important issue: the remarkable ability it would grant big business to sue the living daylights out of governments which try to defend their citizens. It would allow a secretive panel of corporate lawyers to overrule the will of parliament and destroy our legal protections. Yet the defenders of our sovereignty say nothing.”

    http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/dec/02/transatlantic-free-trade-deal-regulation-by-lawyers-eu-us

    The proposed deal to reach an agreement — by the end of 2014 — on a transatlantic trade and investment partnership (TTIP), serving the world’s first and second biggest markets – the European Union and United States — is intended to deepen transatlantic relationship, assert global trade policy leadership and advance a rules-based system for the global governance.

    TTIP’s Effects on the Global Economy


    You’re right it hasn’t been brought up before, but I only read about it a couple of weeks ago. It does deserve an in depth discussion, because it ain’t all good news.

  13. Blair was and is a politician, his roots are those as Mike has described, and the brits elected him again and again. We have no one to blame but ourselves for the leaders we vote for.

    As for Iraq, it was a state sponsor of terror, you signed up to fight terror. There are more soldiers in the system now with prosthetic’s because of medical advances for treating trauma in the field.

    20yrs ago all those that you decry over surviving their injuries would have died in the field. Ask them if they would rather have lost a limb or their life.

  14. Blair was and is a politician, his roots are those as Mike has described, and the brits elected him again and again. We have no one to blame but ourselves for the leaders we vote for.

    Never voted for the Labour party in my life and never would.
    Not to say they don’t ever have some good policies, but taken altogether as an OS they’ll banrupt you every time..

    Blair is indeed a politician… of the worst kind. An opportunist who surrounded himself with a few folk and hammered out policies whilst his attack dog Alastair Campbell was always there to intimidate the opposition.

  15. British election fraud exposed by Judge

    A massive vote-rigging scandal by agents of the ruling political party in Britain has been exposed.

    An extensive and systematic fraud was carried out during the last year’s election by agents of Prime Minister Tony Blair’s political party, the “Labour Party”, involving “intimidation”, “bribery”, “vote-buying”, impersonation”, and a “vote-forging factory” — even the burning of opposition votes.

    The British government routinely criticises elections in foreign countries on their diplomatic black-list, although like the USA the UK turns a blind-eye to electoral fraud when it occurs under client regimes.

    The British mass media declared the recent election in Zimbabwe a fraud, citing opposition leaders and official British and American sources, but failed to explain why or provide any evidence.

    http://www.theinsider.org/news/article.asp?id=1085

    I wonder just why Tony Blair loves immigrants?

  16. Wednesday, May 28, 2014

    Exclusive: Osborne Reveals UKIP Crisis Summit at Chequers

    George Osborne has revealed that the Tories held a crisis summit at Chequers this morning on how to deal with the UKIP threat. Both government and party sources refuse to discuss attendees or indeed what was on the agenda. Leaving a breakfast event hosted at No.11 for alumni of Magdalen College, Oxford, the Chancellor explained his premature exit by telling attendees he was taking the unusual step of going to the PM’s official countryside residence in the middle of the week for the meeting. An important pit stop on the way to Newark…

    http://order-order.com/

    Panic Mr mannering.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Boge-aRCQAI7jwm.jpg:large

  17. If UKIP get there way and renegotiate / leave the EU won’t it have negative repercussions for the over 2.2 million Brits that live in other EU countries?

  18. Paul McMahon, on May 28th, 2014 at 5:49 PM Said:

    If UKIP get there way and renegotiate / leave the EU won’t it have negative repercussions for the over 2.2 million Brits that live in other EU countries?

    Paul, what repercussions?

  19. A simple trade deal with the Federal European Union superstate would be just fine.

  20. If UKIP get there way and renegotiate / leave the EU won’t it have negative repercussions for the over 2.2 million Brits that live in other EU countries?

    Why would there necessarily be a problem?

  21. Britain will be next to the continent for a very long time.

    It is in the interests of both to have friendly ( not just good ) relations, and free trade, even if Britain leaves.

    There would be no need for any Iron Curtain II in the middle of the English Channel.

    Same deal if Scotland exits the UK. There would be disappointment at the move, but it would still be in the interests of Scotland and the UK to be friends and partners.

  22. I also suspect that if Britain was to reject the EU and all it’s draconian dictats, and if Britain was to change for the better and actually became Great Britain and a Soveriegn country once again, which again i suspect it would, maybe many of those 2.2 million ‘ex-pats’ would gladly return, which I suspect they will.

  23. A chunk of those expats are sun loving British retirees in Spain etc who bring money into Spain.

    Why would Spain have any problem with that?

    If Spain didn’t want them, other countries would want them and the money / jobs that they bring.

  24. Phantom, on May 28th, 2014 at 6:29 PM Said:

    A chunk of those expats are sun loving British retirees in Spain etc who bring money into Spain.

    Why would Spain have any problem with that?

    Precisely, I also suspect that a huge percentage of those Brits working across Europe are there due to specialized skill-sets that particular EU countries require, I would be suprised if any of those Brit ex-pats had the desire to ‘flee’ their country of birth to raid the ‘benefits system’ or expect their EU country of choice to support them right from the off, far from it I should think.

  25. Considering Great Britain is a net contributor to the EU, how come we have less influence now than we did 20 or 30 years ago?

  26. If Britain was to restrict immigration from the EU what’s to stop the EU from doing the same from Britain?

    That’s the repercussions I’m speaking about.

    I also suspect that a huge percentage of those Brits working across Europe are there due to specialized skill-sets that particular EU countries require

    I’d be inclined to disagree Harri, in fact from experience I’d suggest that the largest skill set would be native English speakers teaching English in big towns and cities with a much much smaller number being employed in IT and engineering.

    The further south you go the more it becomes a mixture of retirees, beach bums, ticket touts and other assorted transients with the Costas having entire villages of ex pat who generally tend to socialise and live amongst that insular community.

    People here seem to think that Britain is some sort of honey pot. It isn’t.

  27. Paul McMahon, on May 28th, 2014 at 7:37 PM Said:

    If Britain was to restrict immigration from the EU what’s to stop the EU from doing the same from Britain

    You mean ‘Visa’s’

    Norwegians and the Swiss don’t require a visa.

  28. Paul

    Apart from that, are there any other repercussions you can think of.

    There is absolutley nothing wrong in anyone wishing to preserve their identity and national existence.

    As I have stated before, I know next to nothing about NI past troubles or recent national feeling, but why was all that blood shed if not for the very same thing the English/British wish for their own country .. freedom from foriegn rule or tryanny.

    A fine example of how the elite work and think, we have Rompouy stating today to the EU nation ‘He gets the message’ and two hours later him and his ilk are asking for even more money from the ‘citizens’ pockets, to say they just don’t get it do they, has to be the understatement of the millenium.

  29. Paul McMahon, on May 28th, 2014 at 7:37 PM Said:

    If Britain was to restrict immigration from the EU what’s to stop the EU from doing the same from Britain?

    In or out, at some point Britain will have to, there has to come a saturation point.

  30. There is absolutley nothing wrong in anyone wishing to preserve their identity and national existence

    In or out, at some point Britain will have to, there has to come a saturation point

    That may be true or not Harri but it has little to do with the question about possible consequences which there may be for Brits living in the EU.

    Freedom from foriegn rule or tryanny.

    You get the government you vote for.

  31. You get the government you vote for.

    Very true Paul, but we are supposed to be representative democracy, not a direct democracy.

    That may be true or not Harri but it has little to do with the question about possible consequences which there may be for Brits living in the EU.

    There is always consequences, not as bad as the EU propaganda makes out, in my opinion the benefits outweigh the risks.

  32. Just what (or not as the case maybe) goes through their minds?

    The EU sparked fury by demanding an extra £500million from British taxpayers – just hours after claiming it would take heed of damning election results.

    The European Commission was accused of ‘living on a different planet’ after asking member countries for a £3.8billion cash increase to its budget. Around an eighth of this will come from UK pockets.

    The astonishing demand came just hours after Herman Van Rompuy, the President of the European Council, said EU leaders had agreed to ‘re-evaluate’ its agenda after voters ‘sent a strong message’ at the weekend.

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2641817/Brussels-ignores-anger-EU-demands-Britain-pays-ANOTHER-500million-despite-damning-election-results.html#ixzz332Qdt0p5

  33. I can see the requirement of a ‘Free trade area’ but I can see no reason for the top heavy power mad corrupt cabal who Lord it over the rest of us sitting in their ivory towers at Brussels spewing out orders like they are going out of fashion.

  34. I do admire the Americans funny enough, at least they get to vote for their President 😉

    David Cameron slammed the brakes on federalist Jean-Claude Juncker being shoehorned into the European Commission president post as EU leaders opened the door to reforms.

    EU veteran Mr Juncker had arrived in Brussels signalling that he wanted swift official backing to succeed José Manuel Barroso as European Commission president this year.

    http://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/david-cameron-in-bid-to-block-federalist-as-ec-president-9445205.html

  35. There is always consequences, not as bad as the EU propaganda makes out, in my opinion the benefits outweigh the risks

    Perhaps Harri as much of what we are discussing is hypothetical. The only point that I’m making is that if someone doesn’t let my kids in his garden then why should I let his kids in my garden?

  36. Perhaps Harri as much of what we are discussing is hypothetical. The only point that I’m making is that if someone doesn’t let my kids in his garden then why should I let his kids in my garden?

    So, we might or might not require to show our passports at the French, Belgium or German borders, okay no problem, it did not cause me any problems before, I see none now.

    We could have our own agreements with each independant nation state on the matter, but I don’t believe the anti-democratic EU masters at Brussels would ‘Allow’ it.

  37. I’m speaking about immigration as opposed to travel Harri. There are over 2.2 million Brits living in EU countries.

    It would also be great craic on that invisible line which partitions Ireland.

  38. Paul

    Lots of people want immigrants who bring plenty of money and who increase economic activity and who are nearly never there for the benefits.

    If you wish to expel the British nationals from the EU someday, can you please encourage them to come to the US.

  39. Lots of people want immigrants who bring plenty of money and who increase economic activity and who are nearly never there for the benefits

    What about those who are ‘stealing jobs’ Phantom?

  40. Paul

    The EU and its countries should do what suits them best.

    A big chunk of those ” British expats ” are the 300,000 plus in Republic of Ireland with origins in the six counties or returned families that had lived in England for a time and who had kids born in England. The Irish would not regard any of these 300,000 as foreign immigrants I don’t think.

    This sounds like an issue that can easily be sorted out country by country. I don’t see any need for expulsions or any of that.

  41. A big chunk of those ” British expats ” are the 300,000 plus in Republic of Ireland with origins in the six counties or returned families that had lived in England for a time and who had kids born in England

    See my comment regarding ‘great craic on that invisible line which partitions Ireland’

    No comment on immigrants and stealing jobs increasing economic activity?

  42. I think that’s a matter for the UK and other countries to sort out between them.

    If countries think that it suits them to limit economic migration, that’s entirely their prerogative. Its noone else’s business.

    There was intra European immigration before the EU was created five minutes ago.

  43. No comment on immigrants and stealing jobs increasing economic activity?

    I have no answers to that one Paul to be honest, I do believe that the UK has surpassed that saturation point a long time ago.

    We also have an increased crime rate.

    Our infrastructure just can not cope with the numbers.

  44. No comment on immigrants and stealing jobs increasing economic activity?

    I have no answers to that one Paul to be honest, I do believe that the UK has surpassed that saturation point a long time ago.

    We also have an increased crime rate.

    Our infrastructure just can not cope with the numbers.

  45. That’s fair enough Harri. That’s your opinion, I just don’t necessarily agree with it.

    One man’s increased economic activity is another man’s stealing jobs.

  46. One man’s increased economic activity is another man’s stealing jobs.

    Is it reasonable to assume that the man whose economic activity has increased is doing whatever it is at lower pay than the other man who has been displaced from his job.

  47. No that is a piss poor analysis Allan

    Ever hear of an entrepreur who creates something new?

  48. No that is a piss poor analysis Allan

    Ever hear of an entrepreur who creates something new?

    It’s a correct analysis, Phantom. Wages are being driven down by the entry of cheap, low-grade labour into the UK and Europe. In fact, the dregs of the 3rd-world go through Europe to get to the UK and bring us their ‘entrepreneuranialism’, usuall as disease and criminality.

  49. Don’t blame any foreigner for the lack of work ethic in some of your local population. They didn’t cause that condition,

    And you want your local yobs to work as sushi chefs in the London high streets? No.

    Some immigration helps the economy. I work with some UK citizens who work in NY, and know some US citizens who have worked in London for long periods. They have/ had uniique skills and knowledge and they took no one’s job.

  50. Is it reasonable to assume that the man whose economic activity has increased is doing whatever it is at lower pay than the other man who has been displaced from his job

    I don’t know it it’s reasonable as I’ve often heard the allegation levelled, (the same allegation that was indidentally levelled against the Irish in England in the latter decades of the twentieth century and is currently made against South Americans over here today),but have never seen any quantafiable evidence to verify it.

    Besides, if it it reasonable to assume such a premise isn’t it also reasonable to assume that the fault lies with the (presumably native) employer rather than the employee?

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